China Voodoo Grow Log 2021

[ChinaVoodoo]

Germination :

Simox - Hungarian Mar 25 - 7 days
Kumanovo - Hungarian Mar 25 - 7 days
Stag Horn - Dark Virginia Mar 24 - 6 days
Greenwood - Fire cured TBD
Bosikappal - Dark air/cheroot from India - Mar 22 - 4 days
Jasmine - (N. alata) ornamental Mar 22 - 4 days
Maskwacis - N. rustica Mar 21 - 2 days

 

[deluxestogie]

If Bosikappal is Urdu (spoken in India), then it means "kissy couple".

Bob

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

If Bosikappal is Urdu (spoken in India), then it means "kissy couple".

Bob

I doubt it's Urdu because cheroot tobacco is mostly grown in Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

According to this website Oosikappal is grown in Tamil Nadu.

AGR 301 :: Lecture 16

eagri.org

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Oosika is both Telugu (Andhra Pradesh) and Tamil (Tamil Nadu) for needle. My guess is that's the original root word for all the related -osikappal tobacco varieties as it would fit with the leaf shape.

 

[skychaser]

Germination :

Simox - Hungarian Mar 25 - 7 days
Kumanovo - Hungarian Mar 25 - 7 days
Stag Horn - Dark Virginia Mar 24 - 6 days
Greenwood - Fire cured TBD
Bosikappal - Dark air/cheroot from India - Mar 22 - 4 days
Jasmine - (N. alata) ornamental Mar 22 - 4 days
Maskwacis - N. rustica Mar 21 - 2 days

Greenwood is one of the very few tobacco's that I have found that needs light to germinate.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Germination :

Simox - Hungarian Mar 25 - 7 days
Kumanovo - Hungarian Mar 25 - 7 days
Stag Horn - Dark Virginia Mar 24 - 6 days
Greenwood - Fire cured Mar 26 - 8 days
Bosikappal - Dark air/cheroot Mar 22 - 4 days
Jasmine - N. alata Mar 22 - 4 days
Maskwacis - N. rustica Mar 21 - 2 days

 

[Alpine]

Rusticas are real weeds Two days and there you have some green!

pier

 

[Davo]

Have you grown Greenwood before bro? I’m doing some next year, but with the intention of just air curing instead of fire curing it.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Have you grown Greenwood before bro? I’m doing some next year, but with the intention of just air curing instead of fire curing it.

I have not grown it before. On this list I've grown Kumanovo, Goose Creek, and Jasmine.

 

[deluxestogie]

The USDA classifications date back to the late 19th century. My sense is that dark air-cured and dark fire-cured tobaccos, though distinctly identified varieties, may be grouped together by their common traits of having large, thick, sticky leaves, and robust nicotine levels. Most if not all of their differentiation is likely due to historic, geographic differences in curing practices (including which firing wood was commonly used). So I would expect air-cured Greenwood to come out like most dark air-cured tobacco.

Bob

 

[Davo]

Only reason I’m asking is that I would like to add a “browner” burley to the mix next year. Something similar to what would be called Kentucky I guess in a commercial blend - not dark fired Kentucky though

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Every single internet result for Bosikappal is either a seed site, ARS-GRIN referenced, or a forum. Not a single result from India.

There are countless Indian results for Oosikappal, dating back as far as 1894.

There is not a single page other than my posts in this forum that mention both.

I'm almost convinced that ARS-GRIN mislabeled Oosikappal as Bosikappal.

 

[deluxestogie]

ARS-GRIN mislabeled Oosikappal as Bosikappal.

Not an unheard of event. Pi 494163 is listed as the Turkish variety, "Tasoua", whereas @istanbulin stated in no uncertain terms that it was misspelled, and should be "Tasova". So I would assume, from your extensive searching that Bosikappal is a misspelling of Oosikappal. Unfortunately ARS-GRIN never listens to such justifiable corrections.

Bob

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Reminds me of how we have 5 spellings of my grandmother's maiden name.

 

[Knucklehead]

Only reason I’m asking is that I would like to add a “browner” burley to the mix next year. Something similar to what would be called Kentucky I guess in a commercial blend - not dark fired Kentucky though

For a burlier Burly it would be hard to beat TN90 or TN86. Also available are the Low Converter types.

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[ChinaVoodoo]

So some arborists in my neighbourhood dropped off a lot of pine last night for 60 metric dollars. Who needs a gym membership?



(cars for scale)

 

[deluxestogie]

Did you request that, or is it a hate crime?

Bob

 

[Alpine]

Not bad firewood, if seasoned long enough. But 60 dollars is a bit much, unless it’s the arborist’s bill of course (and the wood is, therefore, for free).

pier

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

Not bad firewood, if seasoned long enough. But 60 dollars is a bit much, unless it’s the arborist’s bill of course (and the wood is, therefore, for free).

pier

I'm sure if I didn't live in a million+ city I could get it for less. Split, seasoned pine is around $400 a cord. Maybe I should move to Italy. Actually I should. I want to. I hate being cold. Spruce is only 200. Poplar maybe 150. It's dumb. They basically looked at the BTUs of the wood and priced it to match natural gas because that's how much people are willing to pay to not die in winter, rather than based on labour logistics and space.