The photos of TN Red Leaf on Victory Seeds are copies of TN Red Leaf photos from Northwood Seed. I guess you'll get to see what you end up with.
Bob
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Tobaccofieldsforever
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Ha, I didn’t even notice. I’ve found it a few places across the web. All of them calling it an “heirloom burley”. They are likely all just repeating found information though. There is an oldish thread in the types of tobacco forum called Tennessee red leaf where pretty much this same issue arises. I think the plants the OP grew look like mine. Either way, thanks and have a good night!
Tobaccofieldsforever
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@deluxestogie is Mr. Chaser (northwood) still on this site? Used to talk with him a little but haven’t seen or heard from him in awhile.
I was finally able to access the Tennessee Redleaf page on @polygon55's site:
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Bob
EDIT: I also scanned through both of Killebrew's massive tobacco books from the late 19th century. There was no mention of a variety known as "Redleaf" or "Red Leaf".
Tennessee Redleaf
A cigarette-pipe variety. Seeds were obtained from Sweden. No specific information is available about this variety. The period from planting to flowering is 72-80 days. The flower is red. The plant shape is conical. The bush grows to a height of approximately 1.2 m. The leaves are dark green, sessile, with a narrow stem and an elliptical blade. There are 20-22 leaves.
Classification
Western classification Flue-cured (FC)
Tennesse Redleaf | Сорта табака и махорки
Сигаретно-трубочный сорт. Семена получены из Швеции. Особой информации по сорту нет. Период от посадки до цветения – 72-80 дней. Цветок красный.
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Bob
EDIT: I also scanned through both of Killebrew's massive tobacco books from the late 19th century. There was no mention of a variety known as "Redleaf" or "Red Leaf".
Tobaccofieldsforever
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@deluxestogie thank you very much for looking into this whole TN Redleaf issue again. I am still at a bit of a loss as to what to do with this leaf after harvest. I guess my biggest issue arises from @skychaser having it classified as a burley and he is, in my humble opinion, the best there is at what he does (tobacco seed vending). I also understand that @polygon55 is the assumed origin of this variety so his information should be true to life. @DaleB…I believe you grew some TN Redleaf last year maybe? How did you cure it? How did it turn out? I apologize if the answers to these questions have already been discussed and I thank you in advance for any time you spend helping me with this issue!
Experimentation is always fun. If you already have a flue-cure chamber, then flue-cure some of it, and air-cure some of it. If you don't have a flue-cure chamber, my inclination would be to not construct one for just this variety. It's worth recalling that "heirloom" varieties came from the days before Gregor Mendel. No cross-pollination protection. Everyone growing tobacco assumed that varieties gradually took on the characteristics of the other tobacco varieties growing in the same limited region—due to the local climate, while in reality, everybody was ending up with hybridized tobacco.
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Tobaccofieldsforever
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Huh…interesting, I didn’t know that. Yes I’ve had a flue cure chamber for awhile so I will do as you suggested. My plants today:
Tobaccofieldsforever
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The mythical TN Redleaf:
Beautiful plant. I've snagged portions of your image for blossoms, leaf, and whole plant, just in case I do a new edition of Tobacco Plant Varieties for Home Growers.
I would really appreciate if you could provide:
Bob
I would really appreciate if you could provide:
- stalk height ground to crowfoot
- length of 10th leaf up from the ground
- width of 10th leaf
- stalk diameter near the base
- estimated leaf stem angle to the stalk
Bob
Tobaccofieldsforever
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They are very beautiful plants. They look unlike anything I’ve ever really grown before. I plan on bagging the bud of the yet to blossom plant and save some seed. I will definitely supply you with the requested information.
Tobaccofieldsforever
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Here we go again:
@polygon55's description states that the TN Redleaf blossom is "red". Your photo clearly shows a light pink blossom. I can't access his site again today, to see if he posted a photo of the blossom. Mystery abounds!
Bob
Bob
WillQuantrill
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Good fish bait
Tobaccofieldsforever
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Never tried them but that makes sense. Seems like they would die quickly on the hook after oozing their green insides out…what have you caught with them?
Tobaccofieldsforever
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Yea I saw that. I just assumed he was taking liberties with color recognition because every tobacco blossom I have personally ever seen has been pink…maybe slightly varying shades of pink.
I was just now able to see the TN Redleaf photos on @polygon55's website.
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The leaf shape looks different from yours. The blossom is red, rather than pink.
They look like different varieties.
Bob
Tennesse Redleaf | Сорта табака и махорки
Сигаретно-трубочный сорт. Семена получены из Швеции. Особой информации по сорту нет. Период от посадки до цветения – 72-80 дней. Цветок красный.
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The leaf shape looks different from yours. The blossom is red, rather than pink.
They look like different varieties.
Bob
Tobaccofieldsforever
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I agree that they look like different varieties. Here’s a pic of mine from todayI was just now able to see the TN Redleaf photos on @polygon55's website.
Tennesse Redleaf | Сорта табака и махорки
Сигаретно-трубочный сорт. Семена получены из Швеции. Особой информации по сорту нет. Период от посадки до цветения – 72-80 дней. Цветок красный.
The leaf shape looks different from yours. The blossom is red, rather than pink.
They look like different varieties.
Bob
Though they are more difficult to discern as all my plants have grown wildly and my orientals are encroaching on the Redleaf territory, my leaves are thin and pointy and very dark green…interesting… here are all my plants
Tobaccofieldsforever
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I want to get rid of my aphid issue this season or at least considerably cut it down. It’s an issue every season but I want to try an organic type solution this season. I’ve heard of using neem oil or insecticidal soaps or even just dish soap and water. Anybody have any experience using anything that worked and did it affect the tobacco in any way? Thanks!
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I tried growing rutabagas one year and they got eaten something terrible by aphids. I tried spraying soapy water to deal with them. The soap was Dr. Bronner's. The soap made the rutabagas taste like soap and the aphids would come back in force within a day or two anyways. So that would be my fear with using it on tobacco. I wonder about using diatomaceous earth on tobacco but I'm sure it can't be good to inhale. Some people here hose their plants down with plain water. The idea being to knock the aphids off of the plants. Since we are talking about tobacco, I wonder about making a tea from tobacco and spraying that on the aphids. Sounds strange, I know but I've done that for aphids on corn and it worked.
