AmaxB
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3 cubic feet that's a pit! Lordy leave it to me to me to be the one (I'd do it)
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AmaxB
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Video clip of possible Bacterial Wilt
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AmaxB
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Photos- To the crows foot SamSun PHYB-1 & 2, Kustsaga E2 also some of the leaf on the Big Gold 5210 the Big Gold is half way through the grow at 43 days.
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Big Gold LF width -
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Big Gold LF length -
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Kutsaga E2 bout 5 feet to Crows Foot and 6 feet 7 inches to flower top -
The Flower buds bottom to the right are another plant.
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Samsun PHYB-1 is 31 inches to Crows Foot -
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Samsun PHYB-2 is 34 inches to Crows Foot -
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Big Gold LF width -
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Big Gold LF length -
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Kutsaga E2 bout 5 feet to Crows Foot and 6 feet 7 inches to flower top -
The Flower buds bottom to the right are another plant.
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Samsun PHYB-1 is 31 inches to Crows Foot -
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Samsun PHYB-2 is 34 inches to Crows Foot -
chillardbee
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Nicely done, congrats on the good grow.
AmaxB
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Is only a small part the rest are not this far along yet.
AmaxB
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Gonna have to spray again grasshoppers are eaten me up!
Saw a few Stink bugs too.
Saw a few Stink bugs too.
workhorse_01
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When you top those plants, and they fatten up you wont be able to walk through those rows! You for sure the rookie of the year. What a massive crop.
Fisherman
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Mr Amax,
http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/plantpath/extension/clinic/fact_sheets/index.php?do=disease&id=21]
This has a test you can run that will let you know if it is bacterial rot.
Tomato and pepper crops may be at risk if planted in old tobacco growing areas. Bacterial wilt (BW) is caused by the bacterium Ralstonia solanacearum. Ralstonia is a tropical/subtropical pathogen that causes disease in numerous crops. Economically important hosts include tobacco (Nicotiana tabacum), tomato (Solanum lycopersicum), potato (S. tuberosum), eggplant (S. melongena), and pepper (Capsicum annuum). Ralstonia can also infect several common garden plants including zinnias, geraniums, sunflowers, and marigolds. In the United States, BW occurs predominately in the southeast and is most devastating at temperatures >28C.
The most obvious symptom of BW is unilateral wilting (wilting beginning on one side of the plant), followed by a sudden collapse of the entire plant (Figures 1, 2, 3). The bacteria plug up the vascular tissue resulting in the plant's inability to transport water from the soil to the leaves. Infected plants wilt and eventually die. At early stages of infection, cutting open an infected stem reveals tan to yellow-brown discoloration of the vascular tissue (Figure 4). As the pathogen moves up the stem, portions of the pith and cortex become deep brown as they are invaded and destroyed.
A quick and easy diagnostic test for BW is the bacterial streaming test: After observing vascular discoloration, cut the stem and put it in a glass of water (Figure 5). Do not disturb the water. After a few minutes, you should be able to see a thin, milky line of bacteria streaming out of the cut stem (Figure 6).
In North Carolina, BW has been reported on tobacco crops since 1880. Tobacco growers know this disease as Granville wilt, named for Granville County where BW was first reported on tobacco. Since then, BW has been widely distributed across the southeast (Map 1). In a recent study sponsored by the Tobacco Trust Fund, bacterial wilt strains collected from tobacco crops were used to infect tomato and pepper plants. Bacterial strains collected from tomato crops were used to infect tobacco plants. Results indicate that strains from tobacco were able to infect tomatoes and peppers, but strains from tomatoes were not able to infect tobacco.
Ralstonia solanacearum can survive in most soils for years without a host present. Land previously planted with tobacco may have Ralstonia infested soil. If you are a solanaceous crop grower or a homeowner interested in planting tomatoes or peppers in your home landscape, be sure to acquire a field pest history.
BW strains from tobacco kill both tomato and pepper crops, so your plants may be at risk.
We would like to thank the N.C. Tobacco Trust Fund Commission for financial support towards this research.
http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/plantpath/extension/clinic/fact_sheets/index.php?do=disease&id=21]
This has a test you can run that will let you know if it is bacterial rot.
Tomato and pepper crops may be at risk if planted in old tobacco growing areas. Bacterial wilt (BW) is caused by the bacterium Ralstonia solanacearum. Ralstonia is a tropical/subtropical pathogen that causes disease in numerous crops. Economically important hosts include tobacco (Nicotiana tabacum), tomato (Solanum lycopersicum), potato (S. tuberosum), eggplant (S. melongena), and pepper (Capsicum annuum). Ralstonia can also infect several common garden plants including zinnias, geraniums, sunflowers, and marigolds. In the United States, BW occurs predominately in the southeast and is most devastating at temperatures >28C.
The most obvious symptom of BW is unilateral wilting (wilting beginning on one side of the plant), followed by a sudden collapse of the entire plant (Figures 1, 2, 3). The bacteria plug up the vascular tissue resulting in the plant's inability to transport water from the soil to the leaves. Infected plants wilt and eventually die. At early stages of infection, cutting open an infected stem reveals tan to yellow-brown discoloration of the vascular tissue (Figure 4). As the pathogen moves up the stem, portions of the pith and cortex become deep brown as they are invaded and destroyed.
A quick and easy diagnostic test for BW is the bacterial streaming test: After observing vascular discoloration, cut the stem and put it in a glass of water (Figure 5). Do not disturb the water. After a few minutes, you should be able to see a thin, milky line of bacteria streaming out of the cut stem (Figure 6).
In North Carolina, BW has been reported on tobacco crops since 1880. Tobacco growers know this disease as Granville wilt, named for Granville County where BW was first reported on tobacco. Since then, BW has been widely distributed across the southeast (Map 1). In a recent study sponsored by the Tobacco Trust Fund, bacterial wilt strains collected from tobacco crops were used to infect tomato and pepper plants. Bacterial strains collected from tomato crops were used to infect tobacco plants. Results indicate that strains from tobacco were able to infect tomatoes and peppers, but strains from tomatoes were not able to infect tobacco.
Ralstonia solanacearum can survive in most soils for years without a host present. Land previously planted with tobacco may have Ralstonia infested soil. If you are a solanaceous crop grower or a homeowner interested in planting tomatoes or peppers in your home landscape, be sure to acquire a field pest history.
BW strains from tobacco kill both tomato and pepper crops, so your plants may be at risk.
We would like to thank the N.C. Tobacco Trust Fund Commission for financial support towards this research.
Nice post.
Bob
Bob
AmaxB
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Yep is a good post (#488)
Still not sure if it is the Bacterial Wilt hitting me, still just the one leaf on that plant. Found another on a different plant last night other side of the patch at the top near buds. Am starting to think it is some kind of
worm boring. That leaf I removed and placed away from the patch. Was going to treat the patch but it just started raining I think (heard thunder) need to have a look outside.
Still not sure if it is the Bacterial Wilt hitting me, still just the one leaf on that plant. Found another on a different plant last night other side of the patch at the top near buds. Am starting to think it is some kind of
worm boring. That leaf I removed and placed away from the patch. Was going to treat the patch but it just started raining I think (heard thunder) need to have a look outside.
AmaxB
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It has me smiling for sure having to be careful walking the isles now I got places a row is touching the next row.
AmaxB
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PullEd 5 Plants today see photos not sure what it is or why.
Plants pulled: 2 African Red, 2 Big Gold 5210, and 1 A-56N
Roots looked OK to me but I'm a Rookie
The Southern Bacteria Wilt Don't Have It Thank God...
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All the plants pulled looked like the photos above...
Plants pulled: 2 African Red, 2 Big Gold 5210, and 1 A-56N
Roots looked OK to me but I'm a Rookie
The Southern Bacteria Wilt Don't Have It Thank God...
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All the plants pulled looked like the photos above...
Have you sprayed for aphids or worms in the hot part of the day or just before? It resembles some sun scald pictures I've seen. http://ephytia.inra.fr/en/Contents/view/10977
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DGBAMA
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Split the stems and check for internal damage. Also check the stalk for small holes hist below the affected leaves.
Boboro
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That looks like environmental to me.
DonH
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Yeah, looks like a virus to me.
workhorse_01
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Were those on the bottom? If so I've seen this when a dog hikes his leg on them.
AmaxB
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No I won't spray or water mid day Don't think it is Sun Scald, No dogs peed on em.
They looked diseased to me I should have gotten in closer with the top 2 photos, Starting at the bottom and working up the plant leaves become puckerd and alligator like. The veins get rusty looking than sections of leaf die
turning yellow and brown. Other than putting the crop at risk I pulled them. These plants were all runts from day one and have turned from small to bad.
Was really hot yesterday 98F and RH was around 90% so I just got rid of them, was to hot for anything else. Had to cut my grass and was dripping on the mower you would have thought I was running next to it.
Have one other plant left suffers from spiral root, a deficiency, or something but not the same as the others so am just keeping a eye on it.
Bagged a few yesterday and topped some others. I think out of what I am growing the Stolak 17, Big Gold 5210, and African Red are going to be the biggest.
Some seed came from Seedman my Black Sea Samsun is one of them am beginning to question if it is Black Sea they have / are going to bud but seem to be to big for turkish....
Tobacco is a beautiful thing was out 6:30 this morning drinking coffee, having a smoke, watching my dogs play, and eyeing the patch. Leaves were up turned...plants look bigger in the morning when they are crisp.
They looked diseased to me I should have gotten in closer with the top 2 photos, Starting at the bottom and working up the plant leaves become puckerd and alligator like. The veins get rusty looking than sections of leaf die
turning yellow and brown. Other than putting the crop at risk I pulled them. These plants were all runts from day one and have turned from small to bad.
Was really hot yesterday 98F and RH was around 90% so I just got rid of them, was to hot for anything else. Had to cut my grass and was dripping on the mower you would have thought I was running next to it.
Have one other plant left suffers from spiral root, a deficiency, or something but not the same as the others so am just keeping a eye on it.
Bagged a few yesterday and topped some others. I think out of what I am growing the Stolak 17, Big Gold 5210, and African Red are going to be the biggest.
Some seed came from Seedman my Black Sea Samsun is one of them am beginning to question if it is Black Sea they have / are going to bud but seem to be to big for turkish....
Tobacco is a beautiful thing was out 6:30 this morning drinking coffee, having a smoke, watching my dogs play, and eyeing the patch. Leaves were up turned...plants look bigger in the morning when they are crisp.
DonH
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Can you take a picture of one of the Black Sea Samsun? Mine are very tall but the leaves are smaller like most Turkish varieties.
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