BigBonner needs Havana 142 seeds

[Knucklehead]

PM Larry.

 

[skychaser]

I have Havana 142 seed. I sent Larry an e-mail.

 

[BigBonner]

I was looking for Havana 142 . I have some from Don from a couple of years ago . I did save seeds from his variety .
What I want is to see if there is other varietys out there from others that are the 142 variety and if all 142 varietys from other sources look just alike or if they are different in leaf color , size and quality .
Just like the different varietys of burley

 

[Jitterbugdude]

Good point ! Supposedly a tobacco variety will adapt to it's environment and within about 3 years time will be "different" than the original seed. I 've never really believed that and was planning to do the same thing with, believe it or not Havana 142 but since I've grown BSS-Maden for 4 years now I plan to do a comparison grow of it next year. I do believe that plants adapt to their micro climate but I do not think you will be able to distinguish sub varieties within a variety. I think soil type makes more of a difference than actual location.

 

[deluxestogie]

Supposedly a tobacco variety will adapt to it's environment and within about 3 years time will be "different" than the original seed.

That was widely believed prior to recognition of the research of Gregor Mendel. Now, we bag the blossoms.

Bob

 

[BarG]

Good point ! Supposedly a tobacco variety will adapt to it's environment and within about 3 years time will be "different" than the original seed. I 've never really believed that and was planning to do the same thing with, believe it or not Havana 142 but since I've grown BSS-Maden for 4 years now I plan to do a comparison grow of it next year. I do believe that plants adapt to their micro climate but I do not think you will be able to distinguish sub varieties within a variety. I think soil type makes more of a difference than actual location.

Based on little expertise but gleaned knowledge I have the belief that saving seeds from plants acclimated to soil and climate may do better, as far as changing genetics is way over my paygrade. I have noticed my MCB did better last year from a previous drought year. But a drought year can make for a bad comparison. This year will be the third generation from original seed obtained from europe of which had a crummy germinater[No no no it wasn't me] and germination rate..

An example that may or may not prove out is Guatemalen. I had an unusual problem with sunburning on well established mature but not ripe plants last year. Huehuetenango also but not so bad. After a bit of learning, Not much out there I discovered Guatemalen can be considered a wrapper, derived from a burley variety
[correct me if i'm wrong, this is from a fading memory of gleaned info., no recources as of yet to substansiate, till I backtrack them. ]
I know it is a wonderful filler with a mild flavor as is the MCB. I will try some in shade this year and a couple in full sun, just because they have proved difficult to harden off also.