El Cubanitos 2016 Florida grow
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Now that I'm retired I willbe able to tend to the 50 or so plants more carefully than last year. The worms were ferocious last year and they tore up my grow. Since I'm trying to keep this tobacco chemical free, I guess I will be picking those lil suckers off and feeding em to the chickens.
Smokin Harley
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what is Panama Red ?
Nice looking patch. Good luck to you
Nice looking patch. Good luck to you
Good luck with your grow.
If you walk the tobacco daily, once they reach a couple of feet in height, you will quickly learn to identify the single, iridescent green egg of a hornworm (they pop between thumb and forefinger), and spot very tiny hornworms at the location of tiny new holes in the leaf. The tiny worms easily smear on the leaf surface, and are too small to be worth feeding to the chickens. By the time they grow to a size for which the chickens will thank you, they've taken a large divot out of one or more leaves.
Bob
If you walk the tobacco daily, once they reach a couple of feet in height, you will quickly learn to identify the single, iridescent green egg of a hornworm (they pop between thumb and forefinger), and spot very tiny hornworms at the location of tiny new holes in the leaf. The tiny worms easily smear on the leaf surface, and are too small to be worth feeding to the chickens. By the time they grow to a size for which the chickens will thank you, they've taken a large divot out of one or more leaves.
Bob
DGBAMA
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+1 to Bob. I like to do "worm patrol" early morning, before sun hits the patch, cup of coffee in hand. Early morning the leaves are still upright, "prayer position" and easier to see under.
When u spot the little green hornworm egg, you can almost always skip the rest of the leaf and even that plant. Very seldom have I found more than one egg on a plant, or at least within a few leaves proximity. However check all close plants carefully, one egg almost always means another 5-10 to be found on neighboring plants.
When u spot the little green hornworm egg, you can almost always skip the rest of the leaf and even that plant. Very seldom have I found more than one egg on a plant, or at least within a few leaves proximity. However check all close plants carefully, one egg almost always means another 5-10 to be found on neighboring plants.
My observation on this matter is that hornworm eggs laid during windy conditions are clustered closer to the ground, onto fewer leaves (sometimes 2 to 3 eggs per leaf), and onto fewer, nearby plants. Ya gotta go when ya gotta go, even if flight conditions are unfavorable.
Bob
Any specific reason your shying away from using b.t.
The stuff works..and is very effective..and simply.washes off leaving no residue or chemical taste.
Smokin Harley
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I agree. Use some BT ...it isnt a chemical but an organism that the worm ingests and kills them biologically. I would also maybe suggest getting some diatomaecious earth as well. mechanical insecticide for the hard shell insects.
ArizonaDave
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I'm wondering if it's the same seed that Cigar manufacturers came up with, a cross between the Panamanian and Peruvian tobaccos I've heard about a few years back? If he has seeds after this harvest, count me in. I'd like to try it.
Brown Thumb
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Ill take a few of them seeds
Smokin Harley
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I'm with Dave...I'd like some seed as well if/when you get some. I'd even trade some from my seed bank for it if you'd like.
Given that "Panama Red" is the moniker of a famous strain of marijuana, I suspect that the catchy name was simply applied tobacco seed by a crafty vendor--an unfortunate and common practice. So far as I can determine, no such tobacco variety exists. I may be wrong, but after scanning GRIN and the seed banks of many nations, I think it just seems fishy.
Bob
Bob
I used that Bacillus powder the year before last, it seemed to do the trick I'm just trying to stay away from putting stuff on the tobacco, I read the label on the stuff and it seems as though it does wash off. Probably making my grow harder than I need to. Only using fish emulsion, compost and black cow for fertilizer. Fingers crossed. Get my fish poo fight from the pond.
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Smokin Harley
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Haha, ok. I already have PA Red seeds and I grew it last year, did extremely well too.
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