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Clanirish

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Glad to have found this forum and excited to hear wisdom and tips especially regarding cellaring tobacco because I know barely anything but am very excited to learn.

My name is Chris, I’m new to cellaring tobacco, and have only been attempting it since 2015 with locally purchased tins. I’m an occasional celebratory pipe smoker.

I have searched for the best tobacco to cellar and I’ve ended up at Whole Leaf Tobacco’s doorstep looking at Lemon Virginia. I was surprised to see hand tied 1lb bundles. I’m only used to commercially available tobacco. I’m ignorant as to how to deal with cured unprepared tobacco leaf. It seems daunting to me especially given the comment in the description on WLT’s site about dealing with the midrib. I will do my best to discover how to process it on my own but a response from WLT for insight suggested this may be the place for tips & wisdom. I would like to get the best results 5, 10, 15 years from now when I gift jars of it to my brothers and friends and/or open one up for a Christmas gathering to share. Yes, I know I have a romanticized vision of an amazingly aged sugary Virginia around Christmas time but we all have dreams right?

Thanks much for your time,

Chris McDonough
 

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Welcome to the forum. I'm afraid I can't help at all with regard to cellaring. Since all commercial pipe blends contain glycerin or propylene glycol or both, they don't respond to aging the way that pure tobacco does. Do scan the topics within our Index of Key Forum Threads (linked in the menu bar) for subjects that might catch your interest.

I would suggest the (very long) thread on pipe blending with pure tobacco--no additives:
We have a free pdf download of a book on pipe blending:

Also, check out making your own Cavendish and Perique from whatever tobacco varieties you choose. Stemming leaf is a piece of cake. Shredding can be done with a mechanical or electrical shredder (see accessories at WLT), or simply sliced from a handful of wadded-up leaf. (I roll my pipe blend components into a crude cigar, flatten it, then slice it into coins with a chaveta. I've done that for many years now.)

Bob
 

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That was fascinating. When he simply pulled and slid the leaf’s central rib out and it reacted like a Venetian blind, that was very cool and frankly entertaining. Then proceeded to work on a less dry leaf (of burley I think which are huge btw) and wrap around his hand to minimize damage to the leaf, floored. Thank you for posting this video.

You mentioned mold could be an issue. I want to explore how to minimize mold if I cellar a Virginia leaf since it’s not chemically treated like a commercially tinned tobacco would be. I didn’t realize there were so many additives in a tin. Probably should have…
 

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Hello Chris and welcome here. I'm new here too. This forum really helps us to progress in growing and preparing the leaves to make really good smoking tobacco. Thanks to all those who give such good advice with very detailed explanations.
 

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I use google translate to communicate, but I understand that "case" refers to the humidity of the tobacco leaf.
Welcome to the forum.
I too had trouble understanding "low case" and "hight case". Now I understand that low case means little humidity and hight case a lot of humidity. I hope I understood correctly. Otherwise I'll make a lot of mistakes with my leaves...:unsure:
 

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out of case:
very noisy, like dried autumn leaves, and crumbles when handled
low case:
much quieter, is mostly flexible, though it may crack slightly
medium case:
sounds like thick vinyl, is entirely flexible, and has a moderate stretch
high case:
silent, feels somewhat moist, though not wet, is flexible and fully stretchy

If you click on the WIKI in the menu bar, there is a fair amount of condensed info there. This definition of case is from the Tobacco Jargon section (side-bar menu).

Bob
 
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