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How does he get his wrappers to be so flat and wrinkle free?

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There’s a guy who posted this in a FB group before where it looks like he ironed the wrapper, Like a shirt.. how do I achieve this? If I could make it that flat then my cigars would look spectacular. I tried asking him twice but he didn’t respond so that’s why I’m asking you guys.
 

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met a "hint" on the cigar forum, put sheets between the pages of the book for alignment
Sorry but I have no idea what you just said. Met a hint? What kind of sheet? I don’t understand, should I put the leaves between the pages from a random book?
 

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This FB guy is using a damp stainless steal rolling surface. His leaf has a high case that sticks well to the rolling surface when stretched out. His doll is molded to be smooth. The leaf has been trimmed to the outer edge removing larger veining.


Is this the FB group? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1444997795587518
 

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This FB guy is using a damp stainless steal rolling surface. His leaf has a high case that sticks well to the rolling surface when stretched out. His doll is molded to be smooth. The leaf has been trimmed to the outer edge removing larger veining.


Is this the FB group? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1444997795587518
okay thanks. Will go out and buy one then.
Yes, that’s the group.
 

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This technique is very helpful with fragile leaf like true maduro. His leaf is not.
If your leaf has had time to fully absorb its moisture, you will be able to stretch the wrapper to the doll without sticking the wrapper to a board by keeping the tension during application by holding the cigar down to the board.
A little glue before you let go of it will secure it in place.
You should practice to be able to feel what tension it takes in the leaf to do this.
 

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You guys sound like old industrial radiographers telling the new guy he shouldn't need coverage marks on his clocktapes.
I've tried to figure out, using Google, whether this is a coherent sentence in any timeframe, and I honestly can't figure it out. But I'm going to use it, appropriately, next time I can't figure out what the heck someone's trying to say, on account of the abstruseness of his/her/their nomenclature.
 

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Can we get you to say what is "required to roll a smooth cigar" without using the word practice?
The first thing I thought why, after asking twice did Nico not get an answer from the guy?
Maybe because of the obvious "practice" notion I attempted to suggest in my last sentence?
 

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One thing that's interesting about this topic is that properly prepping a leaf for wrapping is difficult to shoot a video of by oneself, sans a head- or chest-mounted video device. Both I and webmost have made such videos with such devices, but, for example in my case I've uploaded 100s of videos of me wrapping, but only one or two of me prepping wrapper leaf. Yet prepping the leaf is the most fundamental aspect of this question of how to roll a smooth cigar. Because wrapper comes in all kinds of states (from powder-dry stick to somewhat flexible flat leaf) and it has to be brought to a state of strong stretchability so that it can be properly stretched onto the bunch during the wrapping process. So people end up with these (false) ideas that they need a flat, smooth wrapper to end up with a smoothly wrapped stick. In fact, unless it's glued down with water to a metal surface such a flat wrapper has probably had the "life" already stretched out of it and it'll make a worse-constructed roll than a leaf that is properly prepped and lying there on the table looking all wrinkly, springy, and full of life.

If I enjoyed wearing my GoPro head harness then I'd make more videos about what goes into prepping a leaf. But I don't get paid for this s--- and rolling with that thing on my head is a drag.
 

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A decade ago, I hung two cured tobacco leaves near the doorway leading into my home's hallway. They just hung there for about a year. Every single time I walked past them, I would gently touch them, then look at the nearby hygrometer. [This was back in the dark ages, when the only cigar rolling videos available were shot in cigar factories, using leaf components that were already prepped.] I was surprised at the dramatic changes in the feel of those two leaves that resulted from minor fluctuations in the relative humidity. "Case" and "just right" are subtle, tactile observations. The more years that I have manipulated leaf case, the less I recall how challenging a skill that was for me initially.

Bob
 

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A decade ago, I hung two cured tobacco leaves near the doorway leading into my home's hallway. They just hung there for about a year. Every single time I walked past them, I would gently touch them, then look at the nearby hygrometer. [This was back in the dark ages, when the only cigar rolling videos available were shot in cigar factories, using leaf components that were already prepped.] I was surprised at the dramatic changes in the feel of those two leaves that resulted from minor fluctuations in the relative humidity. "Case" and "just right" are subtle, tactile observations. The more years that I have manipulated leaf case, the less I recall how challenging a skill that was for me initially.

Bob
Yeah.
 
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