Things or places of Historical value

[BarG]

To make a short story long, lol, I found a guy from a historical society hanging at the gate to my family's property, he was interested in the old Bozeman cemetary across the street. anyway my son in law Matt took great interest and exchanged info after I called my friend(Donald also known as duck) to give the guy what he needed as he was a care taker and his family owns adjoining property. One thing led to another and Matt was contacted by Daryl H. about wanting to survey our property based on the fact our property was a main crossing across the Trinity river as part of the late 17-and 1800's old spanish trail. ( as a side note people are still looking for the earliest settlement for that part of the country without success so far). He wants to locate the main Ferry crossing which seems to be lost and indispute. Any way I am meeting Daryl tomorrow and he will be equipped with his lidar sattelite images which he has special software to interpret and a metal detector to look for artfacts, I will be his guide and protector from such things as beastly hogs and sasquatchs, heh heh. I will have my trusty 10-22 ruger , venison jerky and a six pack of bud.

If I do see a sasquatch I will throw jerky at it.

For some reason theres less pieces in the second pic. damn jerky thieves.

 

[GreenDragon]

I'd worry less about the hogs and squatches and more about all the poison ivy in that area! I swear they ought to replace the bluebonnet as the state flower and bow to the inevitability of the takeover.

Have fun

 

[deluxestogie]

Take a trip along the Old Spanish Trail: http://library.stmarytx.edu/ost/



Click the map image on the first page, then click the OST marker at the bottom of each page, to go to the next page.

Bob

 

[BarG]

When I find the pic of the aritfact Matt found I will post. it gets interesting considering where it was found in the deep woods.

 

[BarG]

I guess to be more clear, the lidar images are used to cut away landscape (foliage,trees etc.) to find old roads and trails in this instance way before autos. You may have a main wagon rd. but due to over travel ,rain, obstacles they vere off and re-emerge. we are searching for such things . There are numerous markers around here for OSR in fact I live off of OSR. I am not sure of the correlation or whatever from Old spanish trail to old spanish rd, but that is not our concern for our task.

 

[BarG]

I will certainly post any findings and if so willing to Daryl H. will post relevant research data and sources.

 

[BarG]

Hey dragon meister, I have had poison ivy so many times I built an immunity to it if thats even possible. I still steer clear nonetheless. Blue bonnets are our state flower yeah they are cool and annual and subject to previous season for the next season, wierd huh. Actually I have to be honest here, we don't have poison ivy so much as poison oak, which is very distinguishable from other foliage to the trained eye, my eye, heh heh. It just so happens to be growing up every tree I ever wanted to hang a hunting stand from.

 

[BarG]

OK, Matt came thru and found a pic of what he found 2018 in the woods. Its interesting and there are many views of is origin and age. Judge for your self to find this off the beaten path.

 

[BarG]

Hey, is that a cigar in her hand, she was way before Clinton, heh heh.

 

[deluxestogie]

That's an interesting bronze relief. The head appears to be one of the less sensational depictions of Medusa. Her right hand holds a torch (flames off to the left). Her left leg and left foot are clearly visible at the bottom, as is the diamond lattice of supports for the ?seat above them. Her left hand may be holding an hourglass shaped jug over her right shoulder, though that's unclear. The casting appears to be not particularly old. Why such a thing would end up in Texas is certainly a mystery.

Bob

EDIT: Perhaps her left leg is actually extended through the diamond lattice.

 

[BarG]

That's the best interpretation I have heard yet. Kuddos Bob
Informed peoples so called think it went to a fireplace stove,or some such. there is brackets on the back not shown obviously. How did it end up there, a thief in the night ,probably,

 

[GreenDragon]

Or the Mrs decided it was hideous and it mysteriously fell out of the back of the wagon...

 

[BarG]

Bob. will try maybe to find my pictures which may show more detail, it will be a chore for a later date.

 

[BarG]

Or the Mrs decided it was hideous and it mysteriously fell out of the back of the wagon...

she said get rid of that good looking phallus symbal lady,lol

 

[BarG]

seriously , scholars have yet to determine its origin or date. there has been speculation and assumptions but no hard evidence. Matt has been sending pics to universitys and such trying to get the gist of it. Pretty much wild speculations

 

[deluxestogie]

think it went to a fireplace

That would make sense. Victorian and older hearths included large cast (iron or bronze) parts to absorb and then radiate heat. Many had a cast back plate, as well as decorative cast mantels with decorative cast vertical posts. I suppose it could also be one of a pair of andiron posts.

If only one was found, it's mighty heavy to cart cross country when the other half is missing.

The decoration motifs on these things seems to range from religious symbolism all the way to Greek mythology.

Bob

 

[BarG]

Bob everything your saying makes sense., I am really looking forward to have a so called archeologist (I think he thinks) uncover some old trails.

 

[BarG]

). Her left leg and left foot are clearly visible at the bottom, as is the diamond lattice of supports for the ?seat above them. . The casting appears to be not particularly old. Why such a thing would end up in Texas is certainly a mystery.

Bob

EDIT: Perhaps her left leg is actually extended through the diamond lattice.

You have a good eye, you noticed that foot with the knee right away looking at the big toe that is a left foot

Bob everything your saying makes sense., I am really looking forward to have a so called archeologist (I think he thinks) uncover some old trails.

Bob we have a big l canyon dug by treasure hunters and my great grandma barley got a can of worms out of it. I am skeptical . Its solely for any historical significance. wink wink. heh

 

[deluxestogie]

I'll bet your great grandma didn't have a metal detector. If you think about the litter along every roadside (food wrappers, beer cans, liquor bottles, old paint cans, cigarette butts, broken flower pots, hubcaps), that's what happens when travelers know that somebody owns that property. Back 200+ years ago, that part of the country (most parts of the country) were just "open territory". Where else would you throw a leaking bucket or broken harness strap, or an unwanted andiron? Hell, I've seen a $300 sleeping bag abandoned at a shelter along the Appalachian Trail, because the hiker thought it was too heavy to keep carrying.

"Hiram, why don't we just leave that lovely andiron pair by the road here. I'm sure somebody else would enjoy it, and have a stronger team of mules than we."
...A year later...
"Winston, why don't we take one of those andirons that are by the road. It's so pretty, and one of ours is broken."

Bob

 

[BarG]

Well It was anticlimactic, some really old rifle casings ,square nails nd such till we found the lead bell object, excitement arose till we saw a pipe attached , and tape lol, We marked areas but are wanting younger diggers, heh heh. As far as old wagon trails I think Darrell has a good grasp on them.