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Rednekf350

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Good day for cooking up a batch of chew here in South Jersey. Wind, rain and falling temps.
I just made up a batch of Little Yellow loose-leaf chew with 2021 homegrown tobacco. I am pleased with the outcome. It doesn't have the grassiness that the batch I made in the fall had. I also started paying more attention to the ingredients so I can get repeatability.

I cooked down a full quart of apple juice in a 12" stainless pan until it became a light syrup. Noticeably sweeter and slow to roll across the pan. I then added 4 overflowing tablespoons of dark molasses and stirred it in. I added the tobacco which I had already de-stemmed after air curing at the end of last summer. I kept folding in the tobacco with a spatula until all the liquid was absorbed by the tobacco. It was still a little wet looking and then I added about 2 oz. of Jim Beam Black over the pile and mixed that in. I put the whole pile in a strainer and pressed it until I got most of the liquid out. I then put it back in the pan at a low heat for about ten minutes trying to dry it a little more. I didn't want to cook it so I put it back in the strainer for an hour and called it quits. I will keep it in the freezer in Mason jars like I did with my other batches.

The flavor is good and as I said, no grassy flavor. The nicotine content seems pretty high and you can feel a little jolt after a few minutes.

I am going to try Stag Horn again after seeing these results. I have a 2 gallon bag full of that from last summer. I made a batch last fall and it tasted like flavored grass clippings. It was disappointing because it cured to a beautiful dark brown. My 2022 grow is all Burley because I had no issues with grassiness even after just a few months.

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Welcome to the forum. Feel free to introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself forum. Check our Index of Key Forum Threads for topics that may interest you. It's linked in the menu bar. Also, the WLT Wiki has a section on smokeless tobacco.

Since I am a chew dummy, other members will hopefully answer your specific questions.

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I really haven’t tried anything more complex than what I am doing now. I have read that glycerin helps with stickiness. I may try a touch of salt in a small batch to see what that does.
Looks good. But I would add some salt, plain salt, I use Morton canning salt, sodium chloride and nothing else.

Snus uses 6-10% salt and 4-10% sodium carbonate. If you are getting a kick of vitamin N outta your mix 10% sodium carbonate would knock you on your ass.

I weigh everything including any liquid on a digital scale set to grams. I use recipes from Snus at Home on youtube, and are based on 100 grams of DRY tobacco (crumbles to dust between your fingers).

Of the top of my head an imaginary impromptu recipe might look like this...

100g tobacco (75% dark air 25%dark fire)
50g syrup (cooked down apple juice, or maybe frozen concentrate)
25g h2o (dissolve salt and carbonate in)
2.5g salt
2.5g sodium carbonate
25g liquor
3g glycerin
3g propylene glycol

Heat h2o and dissolve salt and carbonate in it. When dissolved add glycerin and pg and add to syrup in pan and warm. Add tobacco and stir gently to avoid breaking up the tobacco. When absorbed add liquor, stir and let stand until cool.

Just my opinion, worth exactly what you paid for it.
 
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Just another thought, maybe mix all together w/o cooking and pack into Mason jars and put in a instant or pressure canner or cooker and cook under pressure for 2-3 hrs like you do with snus. That would soften the tobacco and pasteurize it, rendering it sterile and less prone to spoilage.
Again worth what you paid for it.
 

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Just another thought, maybe mix all together w/o cooking and pack into Mason jars and put in a instant or pressure canner or cooker and cook under pressure for 2-3 hrs like you do with snus. That would soften the tobacco and pasteurize it, rendering it sterile and less prone to spoilage.
Again worth what you paid for it.
Looks good. But I would add some salt, plain salt, I use Morton canning salt, sodium chloride and nothing else.

Snus uses 6-10% salt and 4-10% sodium carbonate. If you are getting a kick of vitamin N outta your mix 10% sodium carbonate would knock you on your ass.

I weigh everything including any liquid on a digital scale set to grams. I use recipes from Snus at Home on youtube, and are based on 100 grams of DRY tobacco (crumbles to dust between your fingers).

Of the top of my head an imaginary impromptu recipe might look like this...

100g tobacco (75% dark air 25%dark fire)
50g syrup (cooked down apple juice, or maybe frozen concentrate)
25g h2o (dissolve salt and carbonate in)
2.5g salt
2.5g sodium carbonate
25g liquor
3g glycerin
3g propylene glycol

Heat h2o and dissolve salt and carbonate in it. When dissolved add glycerin and pg and add to syrup in pan and warm. Add tobacco and stir gently to avoid breaking up the tobacco. When absorbed add liquor, stir and let stand until cool.

Just my opinion, worth exactly what you paid for
I have like no ingredients and kinda how to do it low key. I just grabbed water honey, salt, glycerin and tobacco . Mixed it in pan for 20 mins on low heat then poured bourbon onto it, had that going for a little bit, threw it in a bag and have some in my mouth right now. Do I have to age it or can i just use it right away? Thanks. next round im gonna have all the ingredients you say and try your way. sounds easy and good, just didn't have the stuff now and had the time make it.

P.S. didn't measure any of it just kinda threw it all together and honestly it already tastes really good how I did it, pretty surprised.
 

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That should work.

Just too give an idea to those perusing this thread of what does what, not a complete description but just an idea.

The sodium carbonate raises the ph making it less hospitable to bacteria and mold and freebases the nicotine, making it more available for the body to absorb.

Salt improves flavor and helps shelf life some.

Propylene glycol is a humectant(retains moisture) and has some antifungal properties, and helps your flavor last longer.

Glycerin is another humectant and is sweet but is odd flavored, and mildly antibacterial, helps with flavor too.
 
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