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This has nothing to do with tobacco, but everything to do with Windows computers.

I have been running my laptop with Windows 7 Pro (64-bit), since I purchased the computer two years ago. Several days ago, I allowed Windows to automatically (for free!) upgrade to Windows 10. I've worried a lot about the upgrade. Windows 8 was such a catastrophic mess, that I (and most businesses that use Windows for their workstations) stayed with Windows 7, rather than suffering the slings and arrows of Windows 8 and 8.1.

I performed a complete system backup onto an external USB hard drive, before starting the upgrade. I was concerned that my gazillion desktop icons (mostly shortcuts, but some actual files) would vanish, since no Web images of the new OS showed even a single desktop icon. So I copied all of them into a new folder.

The Upgrade Process

I just clicked the button to go ahead and run the automatic upgrade. "This may take a while. So just sit back and relax." That's what it said. I laughed, then followed that advice.

I went to bed. In the morning, when I logged on to the system, it was Windows 10. All my desktop icons were still there. Every program that I tested worked perfectly. Any required device driver updates just happened while I slept. The colors were funky, and the START menu different, but otherwise, the upgrade process was as smooth as silk.

Windows 10 looks and behaves much more like Windows 7 than Windows 8 (with all the silly colored tiles for phone interfaces), but is far more secure and stable than its predecessors. So, if you are one of the folks who actually liked Windows 8 or 8.1, you may be unhappy to see that many of Win 8's "innovations" have be sent to purgatory.

Who Moved My Soap?

Dozens of studies in neuro-science have demonstrated that memory is geographic. So, when Walmart or Kroger rearrange the shelf locations, we forget to buy things that we routinely need. Back in the early 1990s, the spectacular success of Windows (vs. DOS) was because it introduced menus. A novice could now locate a function without having to look it up in a book. It was bad enough (bad design and poor application of neuro-science to interface functionality) when successive versions moved things around on the menus--usually for no good reason. Well...I guess menus are now viewed like wearing suspenders. They have nearly vanished from Windows. Icons have been dumbed down (to work on tiny phone screens) to the point where they are no longer iconic, and often have no pop-up label. Windows has followed Apple in that slide down the usability curve.

If you are a Windows user who needs access to the Admin functions of Windows, or just want to make some simple changes, access to these functions are hidden. (Microsoft's summer interns needed something to do.)

Now, the typical Admin links (e.g. Control Panel, Device Manager, etc.) are found by RIGHT clicking the START button. [It no longer says "start."]

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Right-clicking the START button (a tilted Window icon).

Another matter is the "new" Microsoft Web browser, "Edge." It's horrid, and lacking many essential functions, not to mention menus. Fortunately, Microsoft's Internet Explorer (IE) 11 is still available. You just have to dig it out and set it as the default browser, or you can set up a different browser, such as Chrome or Mozilla. The freshly installed IE 11 on my Windows 10 had automatically imported all of my Favorites from the Win7 version of IE 11. So everything was left untouched and unmoved from my desired IE 11 settings.

Solitaire is gone!

All of my existing (some quite old) programs work perfectly. Even my Adobe Photoshop 6.0 (from the Dark Ages) still works as it always has.

Summary
This upgrade is free, if you currently have a valid Windows 7.0, 8.0 or 8.1 operating system running, and the upgrade is automatic. You just have to say, yes. The upgrade ran smoothly for me. The system is stable and happy. The security is better than that of its predecessors. The visible changes are mostly cosmetic. I recommend the move.

Oh! Windows Update is gone. Updates will just happen.

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I updated mine from Win 7 Pro yesterday with the same experience. No problems.

Thanks for the tip about right clicking the Start button. I couldn't find that stuff until you pointed out how to get there.
 

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...right clicking the Start button.
It took me two hours of hair-pulling (alright...I'm mostly bald) to discover that. So much of this hiding and simplification is not because those obscurely hidden things are unimportant, but because the designers are trying to fit each of those dialogs on everything from a watch face to a big-screen TV.

As with earlier versions of Windows, the real nitty-gritty settings:
  • R-Click START
  • Run... mmc
  • File | Add/Remove Snap-in

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A long list of goodies that you can manage.

Those Snap-in tools will allow a knowledgeable user to set anything that can be set.

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I still run XP Pro on all my puters.
I have buy a new computer for the shop before I install the new estimating software.
Im am not happy about this.
Im a Old Dog and hate new trix when it comes to computers.
Does it operate close to XP?
 

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If you are familiar with Windows XP, you will be comfortable with Windows 10. XP is no longer patched for security vulnerabilities, and it can't run many of the newer (more secure) Web browsers. You'll likely need new hardware to run Windows 10. XP these days is a hack waiting to happen.

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I still run XP Pro on all my puters.
I have buy a new computer for the shop before I install the new estimating software.
Im am not happy about this.
Im a Old Dog and hate new trix when it comes to computers.
Does it operate close to XP?

Talk to your paint supplier. DuPont and PPG have both furnished computers to the body shops where I worked in the past. Which estimating software are you using? I've used ADP and Mitchell. I preferred Mitchell but it's been a few years since I used any of them.
 

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Talk to your paint supplier. DuPont and PPG have both furnished computers to the body shops where I worked in the past. Which estimating software are you using? I've used ADP and Mitchell. I preferred Mitchell but it's been a few years since I used any of them.
I use BASF Glasurit. I have a Eco Mix system in the paint room which the paint company supplied
The problem is, it is in another building with no Internet connection.
Freaking RCN wants to charge me 80 bucks a month for another connection and it is too far away for wireless.
The paint company's don't give too much out anymore its not like it was 10 yrs ago.
They don't really give a crap about the small shops they are after the mega shops.
A gallon of tint is up to 514. Bucks and You have to steal the pen to get one.
I use ADP and Unfortunately it won't run on Mac.
 

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BT, If your two buildings are within 300 feet of each other, you can just have an Ethernet cable run between them, to share Internet and computer files between two computers.

Most line-of-business software won't run on Mac.

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BT, If your two buildings are within 300 feet of each other, you can just have an Ethernet cable run between them, to share Internet and computer files between two computers.

Most line-of-business software won't run on Mac.

Bob
that is was sucks about Mac
That computer is old also, Its running Vista:eek:
I just run two programs on it.
One for unibody and frame dimensions and the paint system.
Who sells a good puter for the buck now a days?
I used to buy Dells, Gateways, a few off Newegg.
Say I got 678.92 to spend for just a puter.
Looking for some input from everyone.
i like to get 8 yrs out of my investment .
 

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Everyone has a favorite but I have been buying Dell's for about 20 yrs now. I take the service plan for 2 yrs if something is going to go its usually quick. So far so good you'll always have a problem eventually but so far they have taken care of me.
 

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Yup. Dell. www.dell.com

Select a business desktop (low end) with a Core-i5 processor, 8 GB of RAM, and a 1 TB hard drive. Include a DVD-R/W drive. You'll probably need a new flat-screen monitor, a new mouse and a new keyboard.

You can get a cheaper processor, and less RAM and Hard Drive, but it won't stretch out for as many years.

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I can't go underground due to blacktop.
I took your advice and ordered a dell Inspiron 3847. Seems to have good reviews.
 

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Another option is to use a wireless bridge between the two buildings. Key is line of sight though. Could mount high on each building. You mentioned blacktop so a semi could block the signal if parked between the antennas. But would only be down during that.
Most wiring companies can set you up with the gear and install.
We had a set of motorolas running in deadhorse for over 5 years with no issues.
 

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I tried doing that for my cordless phones. It kinda worked but the one building is steel and that caused a problem.
Back in the day Verizon had the building hard wired.
Then wanted to charge for me another location.
I just have calls forwarded to my cell now. Screw them.
What sucks I just found out my paint co. is doing updates by the Internet. No more cd disks in the next yr.
Looks like I will will be hauling the puter back and forth from time to time.
 
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