Evelyn
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Thanks.
import some leaf into New Zealand
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tommayo88
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Kia ora koutou,
new to this forum, but another kiwi pipe smoker getting his head around tobacco imports and growing at home. I was wondering if some could confirm that importing whole leaf is not liable for tobacco duty and provided the total value including shipping is less than $1000nz Any gst is waived? I was intending on using the next few years as a buffer while I aged my home crops, but with the recent law change I am wondering whether I should be ordering some bulk lead ASAP
chur
new to this forum, but another kiwi pipe smoker getting his head around tobacco imports and growing at home. I was wondering if some could confirm that importing whole leaf is not liable for tobacco duty and provided the total value including shipping is less than $1000nz Any gst is waived? I was intending on using the next few years as a buffer while I aged my home crops, but with the recent law change I am wondering whether I should be ordering some bulk lead ASAP
chur
Hopefully the distributors will be able to get permits.Tobacco
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new regs...
stic
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I am currently awaiting info from customs on permits, limits, fees etc...
tommayo88
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Howdy, did you say previously that you had been in discussion with people in the nz tobacco community around facilitating the importing of whole leaf?
myboysarge
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Great work...oooh new blends to be had! Mix a lil' old with the new, who knows, i might even prefer my heat treated mix after all this
myboysarge
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Kia Ora brother, and welcome to the forum @Davo
Yeah that’s about right. Also, if you chuck ‘New Zealand’ up in the search bar you’ll find all the posts with anything to do with us here in NZ and the many problems we’ve come across so far, be it regulations, restrictions, missing parcels, some have been asked to pay tax, orders being split up, and some orders ruined by the customs heat treatment process.
I reckon just start off with a small order, maybe 3-5lbs, that will still give a couple choices of what Leaf to order and you’ll have a better understanding of the whole delivery. And while your waiting for it (could be anywhere from 1- 3 months) have a gud read here on the forum. Your order may or may not show up and may or may not be ruined when it arrives haha, but hey, we live in Aotearoa, we can’t have everything.
Good luck and also Feel free to introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself forum.
Chur.
Yeah man I know all about the surprise factor of whether stuff arrives or not, Blimmin heck don’t get me started. Lol
yes I will chuck up an intro post in the right place, but thanks for welcoming me anyways.
given that I may only have one chance at placing an order before the July cutoff, I was wondering whether the sample kit is the best option, or maybe I just buy lbs of particular varieties. As a pipe smoker, I prefer either simple burley based blends, Lakeland style aromatics, or the sweetness of VA underscored by perique and dark fired.
I have a season’s worth of homegrown burley and bright that I am curing, so really just looking for enough leaf to get me through next couple of years and as future blenders. I smoke about 1-1.5lbs a year.
any more advice would be greatly appreciated
Chur
"given that I may only have one chance at placing an order before the July cutoff, I was wondering whether the sample kit is the best option, or maybe I just buy lbs of particular varieties. As a pipe smoker, I prefer either simple burley based blends, Lakeland style aromatics, or the sweetness of VA underscored by perique and dark fired.
I have a season’s worth of homegrown burley and bright that I am curing, so really just looking for enough leaf to get me through next couple of years and as future blenders. I smoke about 1-1.5lbs a year."
I'm not from NZ and cannot advise you on legality, import/export regs, duty, taxes, permits, time or weight limits on aforementioned, heat treatment vendors, etc. Everything is at your own risk.
That said, if you can and are going to order, I would get the 5 lb sampler: nice price, good variety, great tobacco, and you'll use it all eventually. I was very pleased with mine when I made my first order.
I have a season’s worth of homegrown burley and bright that I am curing, so really just looking for enough leaf to get me through next couple of years and as future blenders. I smoke about 1-1.5lbs a year."
I'm not from NZ and cannot advise you on legality, import/export regs, duty, taxes, permits, time or weight limits on aforementioned, heat treatment vendors, etc. Everything is at your own risk.
That said, if you can and are going to order, I would get the 5 lb sampler: nice price, good variety, great tobacco, and you'll use it all eventually. I was very pleased with mine when I made my first order.
From 1st of July, importing tobacco essentially becomes prohibited and whole leaf will be taxed. Got a good blend to match mixture 79? Haha...probably my favourite blends are:
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The villager would be the only one I could do easily the others require perique which wlt is out of at the moment. One has a casing that I don't use but to make the navy flake is easy. You would need to use both suppliers Big's and WLT you would want the orangey yellow the cdn the flue cured red and proportions and you would need a cold press. I would use 20% yellow cdn leaf 40% orangey yellow some of the light yellow from big 10% red 20% and 10% of the double bright leaf. you can also use the premium virginia. in the yellow mixture. Cut to the thickness you like. In a container hand fold the tobacco knead it like bread. Make sure it is moist the press for at least a month. After one month it should be hard the flip for another month. Flipping the tobacco allows the juices to flow so all the tobacco gets the flavour and i essence marinades the tobacco. Typically it takes longer but you should be getting some flavour at least.From 1st of July, importing tobacco essentially becomes prohibited and whole leaf will be taxed. Got a good blend to match mixture 79? Haha...probably my favourite blends are:
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What’s big’s? Lol
Good news @burge. Perique is back in stock.
Whole Leaf Tobacco – St. James Perique Tobacco
Back in stock. Perique is a rare, slow burning tobacco. With high nicotine content, we suggest blending it with other tobaccos. Perique is often used as a condiment tobacco and lends a fruity/
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BigBonner is a commercial grower from Kentucky that is a founding member of the forum and he and Don of www.wholeleaftobacco.com have a good working relationship. Great guy and very knowledgeable about growing tobacco and cattle. If you are planning to grow your own tobacco I would advise anyone to search his posts on the forum.
Thanks for that bro.
Any kiwis had any issues with shipping perique and the hand leaf leaf?? Just wanting to get a feel for the local understanding of unmanufactured. Also do we think the 8lb limit still roughly applies? I’m ordering 12lb, but just trying to decide if peace of mind is worth the extra freight/heat treatment costs of seperate orders
41 Degrees South
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In terms of a definition of what constitutes "Manufactured"
(a)
in relation to goods that are tobacco, means any of the following processes:
(i)
curing, cutting, pressing, grinding, crushing, or rubbing raw or leaf tobacco, or otherwise preparing raw or leaf tobacco or manufactured or partially manufactured tobacco:
(ii)
making cigarettes from tobacco:
(iii)
putting up for use or consumption scraps, waste, chippings, stems, or deposits of tobacco resulting from processing tobacco; and
(C&E Act (2018) Definitions Section)
(a)
in relation to goods that are tobacco, means any of the following processes:
(i)
curing, cutting, pressing, grinding, crushing, or rubbing raw or leaf tobacco, or otherwise preparing raw or leaf tobacco or manufactured or partially manufactured tobacco:
(ii)
making cigarettes from tobacco:
(iii)
putting up for use or consumption scraps, waste, chippings, stems, or deposits of tobacco resulting from processing tobacco; and
(C&E Act (2018) Definitions Section)
freedompiper
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No issues with perique here. It is whole leaf with the ribs.
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