Oldfella
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Damn can't keep my kiln secret from you guys can I ? You spot every time I try to do a test flight, gunna have to come up with a better idea.
Oldfella
Deluxestogie Grow Log 2020
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Oldfella
Deep River
My home is over Jordan
Deep River
Lord I wanna cross over into campground
Bob
Well, I don't think you're going to need to water for a few days. Any tips for getting plants through extremely wet conditions like these?
Deep River
My home is over Jordan
Deep River
Lord I wanna cross over into campground
Bob
If the flooding only lasts a day, it doesn't matter too much. Two days, and tobacco shows clear signs of drowning. My greatest concern is that a severe wind gust that occurs while the ground is so well saturated can easily blow down tobacco as well as hundred year old trees.
To answer your question directly, I don't know of any remedy, other than the flooding receding. My tobacco this season is about 12 inches higher elevation than the water.
Bob
To answer your question directly, I don't know of any remedy, other than the flooding receding. My tobacco this season is about 12 inches higher elevation than the water.
Bob
GreenDragon
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I miss beautiful old trees like that. Brings back good memories.
Whether it is an "old" neighborhood street in a town or city, or an "old" farmhouse, fully mature trees are just a slice in time. They begin as small saplings, and take about 15 to 30 years to grow into relatively full-size trees. Then they shade out the area, so younger trees don't grow--especially if we mow around them. With good fortune, those trees last for 80 or 100 or 150+ years--longer than we last. But when they inevitably die, the scene once again reverts to small saplings.
I've estimated that the big tree that I enjoy from my porch was cut to the ground (as a mature tree) about 150 to 160 years ago. Likely through neglect, eight or ten suckers sprouted from its massive root system, then, after several decades, merged into the deeply furrowed trunk of the single tree that stands there now. I believe the big trees in my front yard (shown in the flood photo) began about 100 years ago as single trees, intentionally planted in a recognizable layout, but have had their upper branches lopped away over many decades. All of those big trees will likely be gone within 10 years or so.
Bob
I've estimated that the big tree that I enjoy from my porch was cut to the ground (as a mature tree) about 150 to 160 years ago. Likely through neglect, eight or ten suckers sprouted from its massive root system, then, after several decades, merged into the deeply furrowed trunk of the single tree that stands there now. I believe the big trees in my front yard (shown in the flood photo) began about 100 years ago as single trees, intentionally planted in a recognizable layout, but have had their upper branches lopped away over many decades. All of those big trees will likely be gone within 10 years or so.
Bob
Oldfella
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Little bit soggy over your way? Not so bad here now sun's out drying things. Was heaps of rain last week though.
Deep River
My home is over Jordan
Deep River
Lord I wanna cross over into campground
Bob
My Kilning shed nearly went in the water.
Oldfella
When I lived in Germany, I noted that whenever a rainstorm ceased, the housewives on the streen where I lived would come out of their homes with a scrub brush, get down on their knees, and srub their front steps.
Between episodes of rain this evening, I did not go out and scrub my front steps. Instead, I carried my kitchen floor mop out to my car, and scrubbed the whole exterior.
When I was done, I braced the mop so that it would catch the next shower.
Ten minutes after I had finished, another bout of heavy rain rinsed both the car and the mop.
Bob
Between episodes of rain this evening, I did not go out and scrub my front steps. Instead, I carried my kitchen floor mop out to my car, and scrubbed the whole exterior.
When I was done, I braced the mop so that it would catch the next shower.
Ten minutes after I had finished, another bout of heavy rain rinsed both the car and the mop.
Bob
ChinaVoodoo
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But, ummm, don't you have to scrub the steps again?When I lived in Germany, I noted that whenever a rainstorm ceased, the housewives on the streen where I lived would come out of their homes with a scrub brush, get down on their knees, and srub their front steps.
Between episodes of rain this evening, I did not go out and scrub my front steps. Instead, I carried my kitchen floor mop out to my car, and scrubbed the whole exterior.
When I was done, I braced the mop so that it would catch the next shower.
Ten minutes after I had finished, another bout of heavy rain rinsed both the car and the mop.
Bob
Lest anyone get a misguided impression, I haven't washed my car since some time in 2019--maybe. The layers of baked-on pollen grains, from late spring and the first half of the summer were beginning to resemble a coating of yellow-green algae. Now it's good for at least the remaining life expectancy of a 25 year old Buick.
Bob
EDIT: And a special salute to the Hausfrauen of Ramstein Village.
Bob
EDIT: And a special salute to the Hausfrauen of Ramstein Village.
A reflection of my neighbors from my freshly mopped 1995 Buick.
Bob
This characteristic damage pattern is caused by about a half-dozen tiny slugs. [Caught in the act!] Whereas a small hornworm will anchor its butt end, and then eat a smooth radius of lamina within reach--avoiding the larger secondary veins, slugs just eat a spot, then meander to a nearby spot to eat more. So the holes made by slugs appear more ragged, and often preserve much tinier veins. That's because they are dissolving, rather than chewing the tissue.
This single leaf bore the brunt of the damage, rather than lower leaves, because I allowed the leaf tip to touch the step above. Even though I don't have any Sluggo left, and won't go shopping for it right now, it wouldn't have mattered much, since steps offer numerous hiding places for slugs, and I could not effectively spread Sluggo on the step surfaces.
Remedy (in addition to heartlessly squishing the slugs that I picked off the leaf) is simply to rotate the plant so that the leaf tip does not make contact with the steps.
Bob
Last season, I needed to stand on a stepladder to bag my Piloto Cubano. I'll probably top these two in a couple of weeks, just to get some leaf. The Ainaro and Liquiça are specifically for seed, which may or may not make it before first frost (~15 OCT for me).
This Prilep 66-9/7 is kind of a mess, but will certainly provide leaf to sun-cure. The one Olor visible will never amount to much. There is one more surviving Olor behind the Prilep, and it's even smaller.
My bed of Glessnor had two Corojo 99 seedlings put in locations surrounded by the already established Glessnor. In this and the following photo, you can see how they remain stunted by root incursion.
On the end of the Glessnor bed shown below, Corojo 99 was transplanted late, later and even later. But since they are not surrounded by Glessnor roots, they are performing better (though still begging for another couple of months of growing time). That tiny, very late one in the lower right is likely stunted by its fellow Corojo 99 plants.
The problem with everything other than the Glessnor is that it was transplanted too late in the summer (because of serious problems with the seedlings in the 1020 trays).
Bob
This Prilep 66-9/7 is kind of a mess, but will certainly provide leaf to sun-cure. The one Olor visible will never amount to much. There is one more surviving Olor behind the Prilep, and it's even smaller.
My bed of Glessnor had two Corojo 99 seedlings put in locations surrounded by the already established Glessnor. In this and the following photo, you can see how they remain stunted by root incursion.
On the end of the Glessnor bed shown below, Corojo 99 was transplanted late, later and even later. But since they are not surrounded by Glessnor roots, they are performing better (though still begging for another couple of months of growing time). That tiny, very late one in the lower right is likely stunted by its fellow Corojo 99 plants.
The problem with everything other than the Glessnor is that it was transplanted too late in the summer (because of serious problems with the seedlings in the 1020 trays).
Bob
Brown Thumb
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What was the issue with the 1020 trays.
My seedling soil mix was missing the vermiculite that I usually blend in (4 parts peat; 1 part vermiculite; 1 part Pearlite). So the mix started out too heavy. That would have been alright, if the weather had not been sunless and damp for almost 2 months. Everything became waterlogged with even the most timid of watering. I had both moss and algae growing on the soil surfaces in the trays. So my seedling mortality--in the trays--was staggering. I had started 64 seedlings of Corojo 99, intending to transplant 48. I ended up with only 8 viable transplants, and those took 3 months to reach a transplantable size. The other varieties did just as poorly.
Bob
Bob
Brown Thumb
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Bummer, I know the feeling too well.
I dident want to research 14 pages, I guess Im getting lazy.
I dident want to research 14 pages, I guess Im getting lazy.
GreenDragon
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I think it’s been a bad year for everything and everybody to some extent. We got zero potatoes and zero beans from the garden this year. Should have seen my wife’s face when she pulled up the potatoe plants! First time in eight years not a single spud.
I've gotten only two puny, heavily blemished tomatoes so far, from 4 plants, and zero eggplants from 12 plants. I might have harvested 10 pea pods, before the vines died. No pears or apples or black walnuts, and few blackberries or grapes. It has been a season that I wouldn't want to see repeated. (Iowa lost 40% of its corn harvest in a single storm.) We take our food supply for granted.
Bob
Bob
ciennepi
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Why do you tell that within 10 years or so all the big trees will be gone ?
ChinaVoodoo
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Please put the Ainaro me Liquiça in pots and take them in if you haven't gotten seeds by frost.
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