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Levi Gross' 2021 Grow!

Levi Gross

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Looks nice! I see irrigation lines. Have you had to use them during this season? Do you know how many inches of rain your tobacco crops have got? Do you use any fertilizers? Thanks for any information you're willing to pass on and continued luck with your crops.
I do not currently know how much rainfall I have received this season.
One would think with the time and investment made that I would record my rainfall.
the irrigation system is home made… soaker hose and garden hose and t fittings and clamps. I use NovaGreen biological fungicide, Monterey- Imadacloorid systemic soil drench, and Miracle Grow. Wood ash, lawn clippings, lots of chicken shit.
 

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I do not currently know how much rainfall I have received this season.
One would think with the time and investment made that I would record my rainfall.
the irrigation system is home made… soaker hose and garden hose and t fittings and clamps. I use NovaGreen biological fungicide, Monterey- Imadacloorid systemic soil drench, and Miracle Grow. Wood ash, lawn clippings, lots of chicken shit.
I should've spread chicken shit. We sold all our chickens at an inopportune time and have younger ones now that aren't laying yet. I have a ton of quail shit as we are currently raising those but I didn't spread any of that either. I used some wood ash when my plants were smaller and have only fertilized them once (the burley twice). I can't remember exactly what I used (the numbers I mean) but I added a small amount of urea to it to up the nitrogen content. How often have you fertilized? Do you water often? I've been trying to show restraint with what I add to them including water because I've heard over watering is a common mistake. However I've also heard of people watering and fertilizing and things seem to be growing very well so I'm not sure.
 

Levi Gross

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I should've spread chicken shit. We sold all our chickens at an inopportune time and have younger ones now that aren't laying yet. I have a ton of quail shit as we are currently raising those but I didn't spread any of that either. I used some wood ash when my plants were smaller and have only fertilized them once (the burley twice). I can't remember exactly what I used (the numbers I mean) but I added a small amount of urea to it to up the nitrogen content. How often have you fertilized? Do you water often? I've been trying to show restraint with what I add to them including water because I've heard over watering is a common mistake. However I've also heard of people watering and fertilizing and things seem to be growing very well so I'm not sure.
I usually only fertilize at the beginning of the season however, I’m trying a new program of Miracle Grow just to see if I gain much this year.
 

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My Mixed up Turkish/Oriental bed.
I totally screwed up this year on properly labeled plants. So I only accurately know what a handful actually are. I don’t encourage this practice to anybody old or new.

For my taste it will all cure and smoke at some point.
Your plants look great, and your leaf looks really clean. Do you treat for pests?
 

Levi Gross

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Your plants look great, and your leaf looks really clean. Do you treat for pests?
Yes, Unfortunately I have to really get down and nasty with my pest control. I absolutely hate using it but it works the best, minus the pollinator kills. I use a mix of liquid Seven, BT, and Fungicide. Also, at the beginning of the season I treat everything with Monterey Systemic Soil Drench. I live in Aphid, Japanese Beatle, Grasshopper, Horn, Army and Cut Worm Heaven.
It’s A Human Bug Hell LOL.
 

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Varieties for the 2021 growing season.

1. Harrow Velvet- Burley
2.YTB- Burley
3. Indian Black - Dark Air
4. American 26 - Oriental
5.American 572 - Oriental
6. American 63 - Oriental
7. Corojo 99 - Cigar
Question for you about American 572 specifically, I see you have it listed as an Oriental. The little bit of info I can find on it comes from seed company descriptions which say it is suitable for air or flue curing, what are your thoughts on best way to cure it. This is one of the 5 varieties I chose somewhat at random for my first growing season, which is to say I have zero experience curing tobacco, other than whats been gained so far in a incredibly abnormal growing season for us in south eastern Colorado. Being my first grow, trying to figure out best method in our arid climate has been interesting to say the least, I have a chamber (single door commercial refridgerator that had already been converted to a large food dehydrator complete with controls/element from an electric smoker and fans for air circulation) that is capable of reaching all of the target temperatures required for flue curing, granted its too small to accommodate the expected volume of tobacco that will be produced from the 140 plants I currently have growing, even after the possibly 50% or so loss incurred by the now 5 hail storms we have had which have been almost exactly 2 weeks apart since May first when the tobacco was transplanted into the garden.
 

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From the Tobacco Plant Varieties for Home Growers book:
American 572 is an Oriental variety that can be sun-
cured or air-cured. Considered one of the best
varieties of “American" developed in Ukraine. Useful
for cigarette and pipe blending. Closer spacing and
minimal fertilizer use will produce smaller, more
fragrant and more traditional Oriental leaf. Wider
spacing and increased fertilization will produce much
larger leaf that lacks its Oriental character. Those
considerations may or may not be of concern with this
variety.

This oddly named variety appears to be a Basma-type Oriental. So it can also be flue-cured. If I were to grow it, I would likely plant it with about 9-12" separation between plants. When Basma-type Orientals are planted at traditional, "American" distance (~36" between plants), they can grow to 6+ feet, and produce overly large leaves with little Oriental character.

Bob
 
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