JukkaPekka
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I have not tried Neko Luonnonkali myself but the fertilizer should have enough K. Tomato fertilizer is also good for chilies.
I have not tried Neko Luonnonkali myself but the fertilizer should have enough K. Tomato fertilizer is also good for chilies.

Just continue to clip the leaves more aggressively. You'll end up with stumpy, sturdy transplants with robust roots.I have to repot
Very nice, and uniform.Started clipping the leaves already. My seedlings aren't even 4 weeks old and they are growing faster than I'd like... I still have at least 4 weeks till last frost date. If they continue growing at this pace, I have to repot - something I tried to avoid with large-cell trays. Sigh. I raised the grow lights, hoping the plants would start to grow upwards. Last year they were leggy ones that tried to reach the sky, this time they grow like moss. Didn't expect this, ha!
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I feel your pain. It's like that in the mountains of Montana every year. Over the years I've seen snow in every month of the year. Best of luck to you!My plan: a full day in the garden
Mother Nature’s plan: back to winter – snow and high winds all day
Better luck next weekend.




I'm growing my first seeds as well, and my goal this first time around is to recapture seed. Lucky enough to grow year round, (at least in pots) in cd weather. Mixing in native soil early in the first roundTime to start my first full-season grow log. There are many things to think about before getting started.
This year I want to:
My biggest issues at the moment are:
- Learn how to grow different cigar varieties
- Try shade growing and (hopefully) succeed
- Figure out how to kiln different types of cigar leaves
- Roll a decent cigar
- Learn how to grow oriental tobacco and how to sun-cure it
- Start seedlings that are sturdier than last time
I can fit only 18 larger plants in my garden, plus maybe 5–8 smaller ones, and possibly a few in containers. With my current garden layout, I can fit only three plants for shade growing. If I'll grow in my garden, I think I have to pick just 3-4 varieties to grow.
- lack of space in my garden, and
- fairly limited curing space.
I also have the option to move all or part of my tobacco operations to my friend’s old farm, where I could have my own 10 × 10 m growing plot. The downside is that the farm is a 25-minute drive away, so it would require some extra effort. We’ll see how this goes.
I have acquired new seeds, and my current selection is listed below, but I don’t yet know what I will eventually grow. I do know that I will grow Samsun Maden, as I need some oriental tobacco for my pipe blends. When it comes to cigar varieties, I haven’t yet made a decision. This year, I am not growing anything that needs to be flue-cured.
The funny thing is that I’m not a cigar smoker at all, so I really have no idea what kind of cigars I should be aiming for, or what can be done with these varieties I’m simply very interested in all aspects of growing, processing, and rolling. That said, I do plan to gain some basic knowledge about cigars (with help from my cigar-smoking friends) in the coming months before the season starts. Bob’s book is also on the way - heck, it might even be in my mailbox while I’m writing this, so I’d better go and check after I’ve posted.
I also expect to build some new structures this year - at least something for shade growing, and a larger, custom-sized curing tent.
Luckily, there are still about 65 days to figure things out before the game begins.
Seed collection (intended use):
Corojo 99 (Wrapper)
Little Dutch (Wrapper/ Filler / Pipe)
Dominican Republic Olor (Filler)
Havana 501 (Filler)
Piloto Cubano DR (Filler)
Connecticut Shade (Wrapper)
Habano 2000 (Wrapper/Filler)
Little Yellow (Filler / Pipe)
Samsun Maden (Pipe)
Perique (Pipe)
// Pasi
Looks awesome! Living in Central Florida, the thing I immediately worry about is wind lifting the structureA week off from work and finally I have time to plan the next steps and work in the garden.
Made some adjustments to my garden plans. To fit all my varieties into my tiny backyard, I decided to grow just four Little Dutch plants and get a small extra raised bed for my Samsun Maden. I am planning to plant Samsun with 20 cm spacing between plants, 40 cm between "rows".
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Next, I have to build the shade structure for the CT Shade. I have bought 40% shade netting, and I was thinking of building a lightweight wooden frame from some leftover pressure-treated 2x2 lumber. Last year, my Virginia Gold and Burley 21 grew to about 180 cm tall. CT Shade is said to grow up to 9 feet / 2,7 m tall, but in my Nordic conditions, I doubt it will reach that height. So I’ll build my frame about 2,1 m above the soil level. I’m thinking of something along these lines:
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The bed is 40 cm in height, and I want to leave the right side of the frame without any crossing support structures for easy access. I still need to come up with a way to raise the net — maybe a curtain-style system where pulling a rope lifts it up?
I have been checking weather forecasts and things are looking good. There are no night frost warnings from Finnish Weather Service for upcoming week and longer forecasts from Norwegian Yr.no are quite promising. I know night frosts are hard to forecast, since they can be very local. I live on a hill, so that gives me some protection from the worst frosts. I’m considering taking a small risk and transplanting already at the end of next week and covering the plants with frost cloth. That would give me one extra week compared to last year, and with Corojo and CT Shade, that extra week could come in handy.
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These kind of temps in May are not that common here, but good point - if the upcoming summer is hotter than usual, I might get better growth. Last summer was not that bad, but my plants did not grow very tall. Also I am not going to get a full day of sun for this spot, maybe 10 h per day. (Max in Finland would be 17 hours in midsummer) Maybe I'll go with this structure height for now and figure out an easy way to raise it 0,5 m later on in the summer if needed. Small extensions to corner posts could do the trick. I do have enough shade net to raise it.You look like you have quite good temps for Finland! If you have temps like that for the next 2 months you might want to take the precautionary measure of scaling up your shade structure. Just in case your shade plants to grow to 9 -9.5 ft...
Good point! To be honest I have no idea what kind of wind load the the shade netting will put on the structure. We don't have constant strong winds but short summer storms are typical. I am going to attach the structure to the wooden raised bed with angle brackets, we'll see how those will hold...Looks awesome! Living in Central Florida, the thing I immediately worry about is wind lifting the structure
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