AmaxB ground prep an Grow 2013

[Jitterbugdude]

My Baiano are also about 4 ft tall and blooming. The Big Gem I grew last year were 6 ft tall with massive leaves.

 

[AmaxB]

Bought bud bags this morning. I got a few out there shoulder high, I'll keep up with you guys.

 

[johnlee1933]

Bought bud bags this morning. I got a few out there shoulder high, I'll keep up with you guys.

You're way ahead of me. No buds at all yet.

 

[AmaxB]

You're way ahead of me. No buds at all yet.

Wish I didn't have em would like em to get bigger.

 

[AmaxB]

Bagged Samsun (PHYBs) today 2 of each..few nice pics of the plants
Here is what I have coming to buds so far will be gagging more soon
Grow Notes:
Seen Buds on

PHYB-1 & -2 7/5/13
PHYB-1 Height 36"
PHYB-2 Height 39"

Silk Leaf on 7/7/13 Height 36"

VA Bright Leaf 7/9/13 Height 39"

Kutsaga E-2 7/9/13 Height 44"

Kutsaga 110 7/11/13 Height 44"

Will wait to bag others when they Mature
Started planting with the Kutsaga June 1st completed planting of the 13 varieties June 4th 2013
The ARS-Grin seed I planted with data

Big Gold 5210 from China

TI 1615
PI 418592
Nicotine content of the cured leaf in mg/g leaf tissue is a Value for PI 418592 = 23.2
NUMBER OF GROUND SUCKERS PER PLANT = 0.00
PLANT FORM Value for PI 418592 = 1 (PYRAMIDAL (COKER 176)
PLANT HEIGHT IN CM OF UNTOPPED PLANTS HEIGHT TO CROWFOOT PI 418592 = 185
LEAF LENGTH IN CM OF THE 10TH LEAF AT LEAF MATURITY OF HARVESTABLE LEAVES COUNTING FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE PLANT Value for PI 418592 = 64.0
LEAF WIDTH IN CM OF THE 10TH LEAF AT LEAF MATURITY OF HARVESTABLE LEAVES COUNTING FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE PLANT Value for PI 418592 = 29.0
DAYS TO MATURITY (TRANSPLANT TO 50% PLANTS 1 FLOWER). Value for PI 418592 = 81
Class FC = Flue Cured


A-56-N from Zimbabwe Rhodesia

TI 1554
PI 378076
Nicotine content 18.9
NUMBER OF GROUND SUCKERS = 0.00
PLANT FORM (PYRAMIDAL (COKER 176)
PLANT HEIGHT 203 CM
LEAF LENGTH 63.0 CM
LEAF WIDTH 32.0 CM
DAYS TO MATURITY 100
Yield 2.5 Pounds
Class FC = Flue Cured


Kutsaga 110 from Zimbabwe Rhodesia

TI 1625
PI 430517
Nicotine content ?
NUMBER OF GROUND SUCKERS = 0.00
PLANT FORM (PYRAMIDAL (COKER 176)
PLANT HEIGHT 127 CM
LEAF LENGTH 60.0 CM
LEAF WIDTH 30.0 CM
DAYS TO MATURITY 69
Yield 2 lb 10.5 oz
Class FC = Flue Cured


Kutsaga E-2 from Zimbabwe Rhodesia

TI 1553
PI 378075
Nicotine content 19.0
NUMBER OF GROUND SUCKERS = 0.00
PLANT FORM (PYRAMIDAL (COKER 176)
PLANT HEIGHT 135 CM
LEAF LENGTH 59.0 CM
LEAF WIDTH 28.0 CM
DAYS TO MATURITY 53
Yield 2 .9 lb
Class FC = Flue Cured


Stolak 17 from Former Serbia and Montenegro

TI 1622
PI 423619
Nicotine content 18.3
NUMBER OF GROUND SUCKERS = 0.00
PLANT FORM Columnar (K 326, BU 49, BU 64)
PLANT HEIGHT 144 CM
LEAF LENGTH 52.0 CM
LEAF WIDTH 27.0 CM
DAYS TO MATURITY 69
Yield 1.96 lb
Class FC = Flue Cured


RT (Red Tobacco) (African Red) from Transvaal, South Africa

TI 1609
PI 420191
Nicotine content 29.8
NUMBER OF GROUND SUCKERS = 0.00
PLANT FORM Columnar (K 326, BU 49, BU 64)
PLANT HEIGHT 203 CM
LEAF LENGTH 60.0 CM
LEAF WIDTH 25.0 CM
DAYS TO MATURITY 79
Yield 2.4 lb
Class FC = Flue Cured


Samsun (PHYB-1)

Fused cells of N. tabacum cv. Turkish Samsun with cells of Petunia hybrida cv. Comanche
TC 537
Needed


Samsun (PHYB-2)

Fused cells of N. tabacum cv. Turkish Samsun with cells of Petunia hybrida cv. Comanche
TC 538
Needed




Photos Today Hover on pic for discription

 

[deluxestogie]

The "Yield" quoted for each variety is incorrect. In fact, the statement of yield in the ARS-GRIN Observations is supposed to be in Kg per plant. For Stolak 17 (PI 423619), they list 892 Kg. That's a rather robust yield. My experience with the "Yield" of ARS-GRIN on most varieties is that it's a meaningless number.

A single, large, high-yielding plant may give you a little better than 1/2 pound of cured leaf (stem in). An overall average is about 1/4 pound of cured leaf per plant.

Although I no longer weigh the yield of my plant varieties (way too time consuming to track it all through curing), I did record yields of 16 varieties during one growing season. They really do give you between 1/8 pound (small Turkish) and 2/3 pound (Kelly Burley) cured leaf per plant. My average for that season was right at 1/2 pound cured leaf per plant.

Bob

EDIT: I should note that ARS-GRIN specifies green weight, which should be 5 to 8 times the cured weight.

 

[AmaxB]

The "Yield" quoted for each variety is incorrect. In fact, the statement of yield in the ARS-GRIN Observations is supposed to be in Kg per plant. For Stolak 17 (PI 423619), they list 892 Kg. That's a rather robust yield. My experience with the "Yield" of ARS-GRIN on most varieties is that it's a meaningless number.

A single, large, high-yielding plant may give you a little better than 1/2 pound of cured leaf (stem in). An overall average is about 1/4 pound of cured leaf per plant.

Although I no longer weigh the yield of my plant varieties (way too time consuming to track it all through curing), I did record yields of 16 varieties during one growing season. They really do give you between 1/8 pound (small Turkish) and 2/3 pound (Kelly Burley) cured leaf per plant. My average for that season was right at 1/2 pound cured leaf per plant.

Bob

EDIT: I should note that ARS-GRIN specifies green weight, which should be 5 to 8 times the cured weight.

Gotta love ya Man
Am with you on the ARS-Grin numbers if you use conversion to pounds is a bit heavy "maybe" "YEP"
892 kg is 1.966 pounds the numbers I posted are a bumper crop GREEN
Some I may have rounded the information is from my log and for my use just thought I would share
The A-56-N they state 1.142 KG or 2.517 Pounds
The Kutsaga 110 they state 1196 or 2.636 Pounds I just rounded this one to 2 pounds
The Red Tobacco "RT" (African Red) they state 1.096 or 2.416 pounds
Is a ball park at best for green weight if that counts... Agreed dry will be much less I figure I have 248 plants counting the Turkish and will fall in the area of 75 to 100 pounds dry could be a bit more Don't know.
With Tobacco I see it all as a guess

 

[Knucklehead]

Great looking patch. Period.

 

[marksctm]

Heck of a nice looking patch man.
And this is your first grow?
Good job!

 

[workhorse_01]

Amax, if you wait till those buds separate you'll get a taller plant. If you top before the buds separate you stop all vertical growth. I topped one short last year(like in your pic), and my dad climbed all over me. The rest I waited like he said and got 8" more out of the main body of the plant, up to the crows foot. Those buds can grow up to a foot and a half taller and wont hurt the plant width, your gonna top them anyway. The patch looks great though.

 

[AmaxB]

The Big Gold 5210 is a strange plant you can see what I'm talking about in the photo has started to grow up-ward after raining all night it looks more like piles of tobacco than plants.
Has been like this from being placed in the ground. Mid day it looks like this too. As the day cools or in this case when the water drys off it stands up and looks more like the other tobacco.

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Workhorse going to be honest "I FREAKED" had flowers opening and did not want to risk crossing the plant's seed so I whacked em after I thought will was a bit early don't do it again they weren't mature.
You can see the Kutsaga E-2 the bud pods are a good 7" above the leaves going to let these go, not be so cheap and just put bags on them till I'm ready to top em.

Thanks for the comments guys it's encouraging I've been trying to get it right real hard. Always killed everything in the past (was 1 veggie garden than never tried again). When I started this the wife says to me you'll
kill em why bother. Now she walks the patch with me and we are talking a few veggies next year.

 

[workhorse_01]

Your patch blows mine away this year.

The Big Gold 5210 is a strange plant you can see what I'm talking about in the photo has started to grow up-ward after raining all night it looks more like piles of tobacco than plants.
Has been like this from being placed in the ground. Mid day it looks like this too. As the day cools or in this case when the water drys off it stands up and looks more like the other tobacco.
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Workhorse going to be honest "I FREAKED" had flowers opening and did not want to risk crossing the plant's seed so I whacked em after I thought will was a bit early don't do it again they weren't mature.
You can see the Kutsaga E-2 the bud pods are a good 7" above the leaves going to let these go, not be so cheap and just put bags on them till I'm ready to top em.

Thanks for the comments guys it's encouraging I've been trying to get it right real hard. Always killed everything in the past (was 1 veggie garden than never tried again). When I started this the wife says to me you'll
kill em why bother. Now she walks the patch with me and we are talking a few veggies next year.

 

[johnlee1933]

Your patch blows mine away this year.

Mine are just starting their growth spurt but I have no buds at all yet.

 

[workhorse_01]

Mine in the back are getting big, 2' tall with over 12" wide leaves on the YTB, and Zimmer Spanish. The ones in the front are stuck and i'm scared they're going to flower.

Mine are just starting their growth spurt but I have no buds at all yet.

 

[AmaxB]

Mine in the back are getting big, 2' tall with over 12" wide leaves on the YTB, and Zimmer Spanish. The ones in the front are stuck and i'm scared they're going to flower.

Your right behind me Brother if ya can stay dried out in 2 week or so you could be 4'

 

[AmaxB]

Mine are just starting their growth spurt but I have no buds at all yet.

let's hope ya don't get them till you should your patch is looking good tho

 

[deluxestogie]

892 kg is 1.966 pounds

Maybe my aging eyes are getting the best of me, and my decimals are challenged, but by my math, 892 kilograms = 1966.52 pounds. That's per plant--as in attack of the killer tobacco. I'm just saying the ARS-GRIN yield numbers are from the twilight zone.

Bob

 

[johnlee1933]

Maybe my aging eyes are getting the best of me, and my decimals are challenged, but by my math, 892 kilograms = 1966.52 pounds. That's per plant--as in attack of the killer tobacco. I'm just saying the ARS-GRIN yield numbers are from the twilight zone.

Bob

Maybe they meant .892?

 

[deluxestogie]

I'll accept the assumption that ARS-GRIN meant "filler" when they typed "filled," but if you can't accept the purest concept in the world, a number, at its face value, then it has no value.

Bob

 

[AmaxB]

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