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300+ year old hard apple cider recipe

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Greetings y'all, I thought I would share my old family recipe for hard (of course) cider with you. My family has been making this at least since the 1700s, but probably much longer. I'm also trying to source these apples to plant on some property I'll be buying soon (all the old family land is long gone), so if anyone has seeds to share, I would be very grateful.

We always made two ciders, one sweeter and heavier for cold weather and the other light and citrusy for warm weather - both fairly high in alcohol.

Four types of apples were used - the most important of which were two varieties pippens, one green and one red. I no longer have access to the old trees and I never learned the proper names of these apples, so I looked online and found a couple of photos that look nearly identical (any help in identifying would be appreciated):



These apples made up 75% of the mix. The green ones are very tart, a bit tannic, very crisp. The red ones are a little sweeter but still, very tart.

We would crush these in an ancient "press" that looked like a dug-out canoe. It was essentially a tree trunk, scooped out like a canoe, propped up on one end by stones and a large hole in the lower end for the juice to flow out. The basic process was to dump them in and smash them with big mallets and paddles.

The cold weather cider would be fermented on the skins, while the warm weather version was as purely juice as possible. More red apples used in the cold weather, more green used in the hot.

After that, we would taste the juice. If it was too tart, we would add a few bushels of another heirloom apple called a transparent - basically just sweet with little flavor. If it was too sweet, we would crush up a bunch of crabapples.

Then, we would dissolve a few pounds of sugar depending on the desired alcohol level - usually shooting for about 20%. And pitch bread yeast and and let ferment.

As this was done in the fall of the year, the winter blend would be enjoyed "young" and sweet, sometimes spiced and we generally fermented it in barrels because with cold temps, high alcohol levels and and being quickly consumed we didn't have to worry about things being completely air tight... and if a little ice formed on top, it was just chipped off and an even sweeter, stronger beverage was enjoyed.

The summer blend used to be fermented in barrels, as well, waxed to seal, but by the time I came along we were using glass carboys and fermentation locks. By the time warm weather came along, this cider would be clear, dry, citrusy... a lot like a Spanish Cava. It was a bit strong, but absolutely wonderful stuff... chilled and refreshing!

The solids left over after crushing made incredible apple butter, pies and animal feed.
 

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For apple production within a few years after planting, you'll likely want to use dwarf Pippin trees (which are always grafted onto a dwarfing rootstock). Since Pippin is not self-fertile, it is always pollinated by a different variety (often Yellow Delicious), so the seed of a Pippin apple will yield a hybrid tree, rather than a Pippin tree. And you will need to plant a pollinator, such as Yellow Delicious, at the same time you plant the Pippins. Expect 3 to 4 years before you pick a significant number of apples.

Bob
 

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Very good to know - thanks! I've often wondered why those trees were always standing solitary, with no seedlings round.
 

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My wife says the pict on the right is Cox's Orange Pippin. She knows them from back in England. She says they are very popular there.

And I just got a good idea what to do with all the surplus apples we have. :) Usually I just feed them to the deer over the winter.
 

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My wife says the pict on the right is Cox's Orange Pippin. She knows them from back in England. She says they are very popular there.

Dammit skychaser. The only question on this forum I could answer....ever and someone beats me to the punch. That's what I get for laying in the bath with a book lol. I think they're cox's as well. They are a hard bastard of an apple, but not really tart. Quite sweet if memory serves me right. The only time I can have an apple is if someone starts it off for me these days.

Nice post though oldsouth. I don't know if american cider is alcoholic like ours, but I live in Dorset which borders a place called Somerset. Cider is big business over there. They are some serious cider drinkers. I prefer it mixed with beer, so you can see the alcohol seperating and collecting at the bottom.
 

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Yep,

There are a few good things that I inherited from my British ancestors, the Fitzrandolphs, Cheshires, Coxes, etc - a taste for good cider, just a bit cooler than room temp home brewed ale and and a taste for all the offal and otherwise generally thrown away bits of meat.... oh, and MEAT PIES!!!!!
 

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I want to mention that the home made cider recipe above is absolutely nothing like Hornsby's or any other cider in a can sold in the US. Theirs is weak in alcohol, thin in flavor and really not very good. This is a high alcohol, very flavorful beverage.
 

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Almost forgot - here is a good starting recipe to try it out with just stuff from the grocery store... to see if you like it before you invest time and money in trees, fruit crushers, etc.

If you can buy a couple of gallons of unfiltered, un-pasteurized, additive free apple juice/sweet cider from a local apple stand, good. If not, go to the frozen juice aisle of the grocery store and buy 5 cans of frozen apple juice concentrate - the cheaper, the better, because it is less likely to have a bunch of additives. Yes, this will contain some corn syrup, but that is no big deal. Grab a 2 lb sack of granulated white sugar, a couple of packs of Red Star or other dry, active yeast for baking and a jug of spring water (you shouldn't use tap water if you live where they but chlorine, fluoride or anything like that in it, but if you have well water, then go ahead and use it). Go home and grab a gallon jug (preferably glass, but plastic will do). Mix up a super concentrated batch of apple juice with about a half gallon of the spring water. Bring a quart or so of water to a boil on the stove and dissolve in the sugar. Pour it all into the glass gallon jug and add enough water to leave just an inch of two of air space at the top. Let it cool to room temp and make sure it is no more than about 70 degrees before tossing in your yeast. The yeast will get to work converting sugar to alcohol and carbon dioxide very quickly, so just leave the jug open but cover with some cheese cloth to keep bugs out. You probably want to sit this in a bathtub or big sink, because during the first 24 hours, the yeast sometimes gets bubbling so quickly you end up with a big, sticky volcano. After 48 hours, you may want to plug the jug with fermentation lock. But, if your kitchen is clean, the rapid production of alcohol and the amount of carbon dioxide out gassing will probably keep any bacteria from colonizing. The reason you want to use a clear jug is so you can see when the bubbles slow and tell when it has cleared - all of the dead yeasts will settle on the bottom. A good rule of thumb though is that it will take about 30 days at 60 - 75 degree room temp. Then, you can drink it as is, still. Or, you can put it in beer or soda bottles with screw on tops (leave about 1 inch of air space in the bottles) wait another week and drink it sparkling. Even this simple recipe will beat anything you can buy in a store!
 

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Do a search for edworts apfelwein,follow directions and enjoy.
I make a lot of Apple wine (which is what it is called when you add sugar) and it is delicious.
Don't try to get your sg too high or you will end up with the most tasteless prison hooch ever.
 

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Don't try to get your sg too high or you will end up with the most tasteless prison hooch ever.

That is true - I included a larger amount of sugar in that little recipe in case folks didn't have a fermentation lock. If you get the yeast working very quickly and strongly, you don't have to worry as much about bacterial colonization from the air and such.
 

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If you can't wait, you could have a go at making turbo cider. this stuff will blow your socks off. and i expect that you would have a job standing after a few of them. I like the very alcholic ginger beer myself. well so my friends keep telling me

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I can't help you out with the Pippin seeds but if you need some Transparent seeds I can fix you up next fall. They are our favorite applesauce/apple butter apple.
 

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If you can't wait, you could have a go at making turbo cider. this stuff will blow your socks off. and i expect that you would have a job standing after a few of them. I like the very alcholic ginger beer myself. well so my friends keep telling me

Mark

Good cider will get you legless pretty quickly. The alcohol content is about the same as sherry or port, but you don't really taste the alcohol... it kind of sneak up on you. Two pints is probably a good serving... at least for me... but I am 6'4", about 210 lbs and a regular drinker.
 

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Cider must have regional meanings. Generally accepted is cider= Apple juice with sugar fermented out. Depending on sg that means 4-6abv. Wine will get you to around 14 with an og of 1.1 if you bring it down to .990, port is fortified so is really comparing oranges to these apples. For anyone looking to try making some cider the best way to get repeatable good results I've found is follow a good recipe that has already been thru a lot of testing like edworts. It's easy to make a great cider, it's also easy to make shit, and if you just want alcohol why not just make a sugar wash and throw some turbo yeast in there? Very High sg cider tastes almost exactly like a sugar wash.

But it's cheap and fast to make so everyone thinking about it should try a lot of different ideas, is almost as fun as trying new tobacco blends:)
 

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As long as it is fermented to dryness and aged for a few months, I haven't found a lot of difference in taste between high and low alcohol ciders. I have found a lot of difference in taste due to the variety of apples used, overall acidity, tannic acid and the yeast used. Where I live, cider was usually a holiday beverage - made strong both for celebration and for preservation in times when sophisticated equipment was not available. Literally, the cider may have been sitting in a loosely covered barrel in the cellar just scooped out by the dipper full until gone. I was referring, specifically to this type of old-fashioned country cider. I really don't like the bland canned stuff, but I have had plenty of "more sophisticated", lower alcohol ciders that were very good. Again, the quick and cheap recipe above is intended for folks who may not have carboys, fermentation locks, hydrometers, refractometers, racking equipment, specific yeasts, yeast nutrients, ph test kits, etc, etc. I have all of that and use it to make wines, beers, ciders, etc - have for years on my own and in brew clubs and such. The goal of the recipe in question is to present a "no fail", "for dummies" recipe so that a novice can find out how easy and rewarding making fermented beverages can be. Once you have the basics, the sky is the limit. If you think lower alcohol will produce a better tasting cider, then feel free to cut back in the sugar... just take care to sterilize everything before hand and consider using a fermentation lock. If you don't have one and can't find one in a hobby shop or online, just drill a small hole in a cork or stopper for the jug and stick one end of a "bendy" stray or piece of tubing into the hole (not touching the liquid) and the other end into a glass of water. Make sure the seal is tight and you'll soon see bubbles in the glass of water.
 

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Home brew is big in the UK The latest thing is to use any concentrated or fresh fruit juice either sweetened or un-sweetened You can add additional sugar to your requirements , Fruite juices such as apple, Mango , Passion Fruit or a mix of anything you fancy. add sugar, and Champagne yeast. You can get it up to 11% alcohol content, but it is best to brew it to about 6%.

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