Badischer Gudertheimer

absinthe

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I grew this old world, german variety this last year in Denmark on the island of Falster. It did rather well in this northern european, cooler, wetter climate as one might expect. Unfortunately, I planted rather late, so my harvest was smaller than hoped and I had trouble curing most of it. I still got a respectable amount of higher quality, well air cured leaves and some lower quality stuff as well. I just finished lightly fermenting the lower quality stuff and smoked my first pipe full to taste it as I usually do. Amazing! It is definitely a cigar/cheeroot tobacco very reminiscent of Havana, with longer, darker leaves. It is similar in taste to Havana, but perhaps darker, earthier and less spicy, with a sweet, delicate after taste. This is a must grow next year. I will plant earlier and start curing sooner. I don't really know how else to describe the taste other than it tastes Old World. This variety was used in the great cigar factories of Europe over a hundred years ago and grown in the Alsace region as well as other regions and is only grown in very small quantities there today. The taste is immensely satisfying and I highly recommend it. Mostly used as cigar filler or binder, it can also be used as wrappers or pipe tobacco. If anyone else has tried it, I would love your feedback. I can not wait to try the higher quality leaves, fermented deeper and aged. So stoked!
 

johnny108

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I think I might try this strain next year-
Because of the embargo for tobacco products during WW1, Germany had no flue cured tobacco, and the growing industry wasn’t geared up to modernize during the war. All the old photographs of WW1 German soldiers smoking a pipe? This is probably what they were smoking, possibly mixed with some Oriental leaf from the Ottoman Empire.
(I’m a big fan of historic tobacco blends.)
 

PvtPublic

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It sounds wonderful! Were you able to wind up with a wrapper or two?

My paternal grandmother's ancestry comes from the Alsace region, so this variety interests me alot! I just haven't been able to get my hands on the seeds in the states, yet.
 

johnny108

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Sadly, I’ve only grown one or two small container plants- nothing close to a wrapper.
I’m thinking of trying for some bigger plants next year.
Can’t get the seeds in the US?
I got mine off of Amazon.de.
I wonder if they will ship to you?
 
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