Bramleyjordan Grow Log 2021

[Bramleyjordan]

The plant itself will be fine, you will just lose whatever they ate. Bud worms eat the growth tip and you have to let the top sucker grow into a new stalk. Wire worms make a hole inside the stalk from the root/ground area and can kill a whole plant from the inside.
Do you guys have hornworms where you live? Look underneath each leaf and make sure that snails are your only pest. Hornworms can consume a lot of leaf in just a little while. They are the same color green as the leaf and can be hard to spot sometimes.

Budworm | Burley Tobacco Extension

Budworms are often difficult to kill due to protection from the bud. Damage to small bud leaves can be significant if budworm infestation is high. Buds can be damaged beyond recovery by budworms.

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Tobacco Hornworm | Burley Tobacco Extension

The tobacco hornworms (Manduca sexta Linn.) can be distinguished from the tomato hornworm by the seven diagonal white stripes and the curved red horn. The tobacco hornworm can be very destructive by chewing large irregular holes in a tobacco leaf. (Phot by Ben Meredith, ANR agent for Woodford...

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Tomato Hornworm | Burley Tobacco Extension

An early brood of tomato hornworms (Manduca quicquemaculata) can cause significant damage in a short period of time.

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tobacco wireworm Conoderus vespertinus (Fabricius, 1801)

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Thanks for your reply. I don't think I do in the UK. Never heard of them anyway.

 

[Bramleyjordan]

Hey guys, me again, the snails are becoming a real pain, i have spent over £20 on different products which dont seem to be working! Someone on a facebook page mentioned creating beer traps as apparently they love beer, fall in and drown - Anyone heard of this... is it effective? Thanks!

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

I believe you'll want to hear from @Charly regarding snails.

 

[ChinaVoodoo]

My thought is to use galvanized steel as a barrier around your plants because it apparently does the same electrical business as copper.

 

[Bramleyjordan]

My plants are getting on well now, leaves are getting massive. So much better outdoors than trying to grow under grow lights indoors... in my experience

 

[Oldfella]

Hey guys, me again, the snails are becoming a real pain, i have spent over £20 on different products which dont seem to be working! Someone on a facebook page mentioned creating beer traps as apparently they love beer, fall in and drown - Anyone heard of this... is it effective? Thanks!

Hi, there are many ways to help you with Snails and Slugs, poison bait, crushed egg shells, coarse Sand, these are spread around the plants outside the largest lower leaf, they don't like having their bellies scratched. They work to a degree. My suggestion would be to get some Chickens like I do then you can sit and drink the Beer enjoy a smoke, and watch the chickens eat the snails.
Cheers Oldfella

 

[Bramleyjordan]

Hi, there are many ways to help you with Snails and Slugs, poison bait, crushed egg shells, coarse Sand, these are spread around the plants outside the largest lower leaf, they don't like having their bellies scratched. They work to a degree. My suggestion would be to get some Chickens like I do then you can sit and drink the Beer enjoy a smoke, and watch the chickens eat the snails.
Cheers Oldfella

Although I would love to have chickens, i am in a residential area and im not sure if the neighbours would appreciate it Cant tell me wife that suggestion, it would be another reason to get them haha
I hve poison bait which seems to be keeping them away.
Thanks for your input

 

[Charly]

I believe you'll want to hear from @Charly regarding snails.

Sorry, I noticed this post today, so I am a bit late...

Slugs are a massive pain in my garden.
I tried a lot of different methods to take care of them (poison, beer trap, eggs shell, ashes, copper wire, thorny branches around, ...)
The conclusion : nothing fully works.

The best solution I found is a combination of hunt and poison and trap (and even with all this we still have too many slugs).

Poison : I put some iron phosphate to reduce their number, but it is clearly not enough.

Hunt : in the night, or when it's raining, go out in your garden and harvest them by hand.

Trap : put some wood planks around your plants with some leaves of salad under. In the morning you return your wood planks and get rid of the slugs.

The other methods did not show any significant improvement in our garden (beer trap, eggs shell, ashes, copper wire, thorny branches around...)

This year, we did not use any poison (for at least 6 months) because we wanted to use hens to eat the slugs.
So we only used the hunt and trap methods, but we are having really toooo much slugs (we don't have a lot of snails by the way).
We finally bought 3 hens one week ago, but for now they are clearly not interested in slugs... !!!
They LOVE earthworms, any kind of worms but they don't touch slugs...

Since we are having again real troubles with toooooooo many slugs, we put some iron phosphate yesterday in all the vegetable garden (and the tobacco patch).
I really hope it will help reduce the threat (in combination with hunt and trap).

Here is a picture I took a few days ago, on one of our potatoes patch, it was in the mid afternoon, after a good rain, it was warm :



"Where is Charly ?"
Can you find the slugs ?

Good luck

 

[Bramleyjordan]

Sorry, I noticed this post today, so I am a bit late...

Slugs are a massive pain in my garden.
I tried a lot of different methods to take care of them (poison, beer trap, eggs shell, ashes, copper wire, thorny branches around, ...)
The conclusion : nothing fully works.

The best solution I found is a combination of hunt and poison and trap (and even with all this we still have too many slugs).

Poison : I put some iron phosphate to reduce their number, but it is clearly not enough.

Hunt : in the night, or when it's raining, go out in your garden and harvest them by hand.

Trap : put some wood planks around your plants with some leaves of salad under. In the morning you return your wood planks and get rid of the slugs.

The other methods did not show any significant improvement in our garden (beer trap, eggs shell, ashes, copper wire, thorny branches around...)

This year, we did not use any poison (for at least 6 months) because we wanted to use hens to eat the slugs.
So we only used the hunt and trap methods, but we are having really toooo much slugs (we don't have a lot of snails by the way).
We finally bought 3 hens one week ago, but for now they are clearly not interested in slugs... !!!
They LOVE earthworms, any kind of worms but they don't touch slugs...

Since we are having again real troubles with toooooooo many slugs, we put some iron phosphate yesterday in all the vegetable garden (and the tobacco patch).
I really hope it will help reduce the threat (in combination with hunt and trap).

Here is a picture I took a few days ago, on one of our potatoes patch, it was in the mid afternoon, after a good rain, it was warm :

View attachment 36410

"Where is Charly ?"
Can you find the slugs ?

Good luck

WOOOOOOOOW it took me a while to realise what was in the pic, until I saw 1 then it just gave me the shivers! Okay so my problem isnt as extreme as yours, I live in mid-terrace house, my left side have completely paved their garden and the right side does have grass. My garden has artificial grass and out the back is a little car park. I only tent to find 1 or 2 possibly 3 snails... absolutely no slugs though. I purchased some poison and seems to do well but the sneaky buggers seem to go up the fence and only the leaves
I only tend to see them after a heavy/long rainfall so hopefully as we are reaching summer, they will be non-existent.
The other thing i mention, my right neighbour has grass in their garden, the fence between me and them is currently broken so I expect once thats fixed in few weeks, that may reduce them. For now, ill keep trying the poison.
Thanks for your input much appreciated.

 

[Bramleyjordan]

Hey guys hope you are all well! I'm enjoying the little heatwave in the UK now. Think my plants are too
Just a quick one, I took three pics, one from one plant, see the transparent parts on the leaf? Its quite far down so maybe its due to age but your thoughts??
The other two on another plant, looks like its growing funny, only one half of the leaf? Thoughts?
Cheers

 

[deluxestogie]

The first leaf shows chlorosis. I can't say the cause.

In that third image, I can't see it clearly, but the stems of the larger leaf and that of the half-leaf appear to be joined, and growing from the same leaf axil. If that is true, then the growth bud of that leaf underwent fasciation, or deformity, resulting in the second, partial leaf. Sometimes fasciation is secondary to some trauma; sometimes it's a spontaneous, localized mutation. [Do a Google search of "fasciation", to see numerous examples.]

Bob

 

[Darkthirty]

Sorry, I noticed this post today, so I am a bit late...

Slugs are a massive pain in my garden.
I tried a lot of different methods to take care of them (poison, beer trap, eggs shell, ashes, copper wire, thorny branches around, ...)
The conclusion : nothing fully works.

The best solution I found is a combination of hunt and poison and trap (and even with all this we still have too many slugs).

Poison : I put some iron phosphate to reduce their number, but it is clearly not enough.

Hunt : in the night, or when it's raining, go out in your garden and harvest them by hand.

Trap : put some wood planks around your plants with some leaves of salad under. In the morning you return your wood planks and get rid of the slugs.

The other methods did not show any significant improvement in our garden (beer trap, eggs shell, ashes, copper wire, thorny branches around...)

This year, we did not use any poison (for at least 6 months) because we wanted to use hens to eat the slugs.
So we only used the hunt and trap methods, but we are having really toooo much slugs (we don't have a lot of snails by the way).
We finally bought 3 hens one week ago, but for now they are clearly not interested in slugs... !!!
They LOVE earthworms, any kind of worms but they don't touch slugs...

Since we are having again real troubles with toooooooo many slugs, we put some iron phosphate yesterday in all the vegetable garden (and the tobacco patch).
I really hope it will help reduce the threat (in combination with hunt and trap).

Here is a picture I took a few days ago, on one of our potatoes patch, it was in the mid afternoon, after a good rain, it was warm :

View attachment 36410

"Where is Charly ?"
Can you find the slugs ?

Good luck

Get a box of salt and a few neighbor kids. Once they see the salt melting the slugs they'll have them all rounded up in no time... Diatomaceous earth will shred them pretty quick, also.

 

[Bramleyjordan]

The first leaf shows chlorosis. I can't say the cause.

In that third image, I can't see it clearly, but the stems of the larger leaf and that of the half-leaf appear to be joined, and growing from the same leaf axil. If that is true, then the growth bud of that leaf underwent fasciation, or deformity, resulting in the second, partial leaf. Sometimes fasciation is secondary to some trauma; sometimes it's a spontaneous, localized mutation. [Do a Google search of "fasciation", to see numerous examples.]

Bob

Thank you for the reply however, the third picture isn't two leafs joining what you see is the 'problematic' leaf is onto and the okay leaf is below. I was just showing the top leaf doesn't have the right side of the stem

 

[Bramleyjordan]

This one is doing so well! Biggest leafs are two hands in width! Not bad for 5gal air tubs and coco/perlite

 

[Charly]

Get a box of salt and a few neighbor kids. Once they see the salt melting the slugs they'll have them all rounded up in no time... Diatomaceous earth will shred them pretty quick, also.

Thanks for the ideas, but I would not put salt in the ground.
And I don't know if diatomaceous earth is efficient on slugs...

The good news are that my hens are beginning to enjoy eating them.

 

[Bramleyjordan]

Thanks for the ideas, but I would not put salt in the ground.
And I don't know if diatomaceous earth is efficient on slugs...

The good news are that my hens are beginning to enjoy eating them.

Good! Looks like I have a temp slug killers

 

[deluxestogie]

I think that some of @Charly's slugs might just eat your cat.

Bob

 

[Bramleyjordan]

I think that some of @Charly's slugs might just eat your cat.

Bob

To be honest, by the amount of them, I think so too

 

[Charly]

I think that some of @Charly's slugs might just eat your cat.

Bob

I don't know if they would eat a cat, but they love my potatoes (picture of yesterday night...)



I really think part of my slugs are not attracted by the poison... or my plants are just more appetizing.

I still have not planted my tobacco in the ground because I fear they might disapear too quickly...

I continue to pick as much as I can each time I go in the garden.

 

[Bramleyjordan]

Just a little update on my plants, one is nearly taller than me (and I'm 6ft6!)