DGBAMA first grow

[DonH]

I agree on the spacing. I maintain 3ft between plants and 4ft between rows. It's real tempting to put more plants in. But now with that spacing the plants are overlapping in the rows and I can barely get between the rows. Orientals don't count of course.

 

[springheal]

I'm sure we have all been guilty of over planting. I have!

 

[AmaxB]

That Yelowing could be a lack of Nitrogen or to much and other thing as well. Have a look here http://www.forestryimages.org/search/action.cfm?q=tobacco

 

[DGBAMA]

I stuck to the 2ft plant spacing I have seen so much as a guideline but gave up the row spacing recommendations as I simply do not have enough room. The result is I will have patches instead of easily maintainable rows.

 

[DGBAMA]

Guess as a first time grower it was just hard to wrap my head around the idea that a plant which starts out as a
A seed smaller than a pinhead will need so much space in a single growing season.

 

[marksctm]

Guess as a first time grower it was just hard to wrap my head around the idea that a plant which starts out as a
A seed smaller than a pinhead will need so much space in a single growing season.

Don't feel bad.
Last year, my first year, I planted, plants 2 foot apart, rows 3 foot.
This year I planted, plants and rows at 3 foot apart, and still snap some leaf when I sucker.

 

[DGBAMA]

That Yelowing could be a lack of Nitrogen or to much and other thing as well. Have a look here http://www.forestryimages.org/search/action.cfm?q=tobacco

thanks for the link. an invaluable resource. Identified a couple pest problems that I knew about but did not understnd.

may have a potassium defecciency.........guess it is time for a soil test so I don't overreact with something that they do not need.

 

[Chicken]

I'm sure we have all been guilty of over planting. I have!

ill agree with that,

spacing is nice if you have the room,,, if not THEN PACK THEM IN,

 

[DGBAMA]

Ordinarily I don't like anything in my garden that can bite or sting me, but the Red Wasp is now welcome in my patches anytime, I will just keep my didtance.

I just watched one kill and eat a baby hornworm off of one of my havannah plants. All he left behind as evidence was a blob of green and the little black horn. the rest of the worm was gone.

 

[leverhead]

the Red Wasp is now welcome in my patches anytime...

They will work for food and have done a good job for me this year, I've only sprayed BT twice. I don't think I've seen a dozen big (over an inch) hornworms this year. They seem preoccupied when I'm in the plants and not so pissy about me being close.

 

[Knucklehead]

I've only found one big hornworm. Then in about two days time I was infested with bud worms. They did a hell of a lot of damage in a short period. I kept finding them from about 3/16" up to 3/4". I think I have them under control now, but they ate the crap out of the YTB. Every time I sprayed BT it would rain, except for this past few days.

 

[DGBAMA]

I've only found one big hornworm. Then in about two days time I was infested with bud worms. They did a hell of a lot of damage in a short period. I kept finding them from about 3/16" up to 3/4". I think I have them under control now, but they ate the crap out of the YTB. Every time I sprayed BT it would rain, except for this past few days.

My YTB seem to be bug magnets too. Finally getting some decent sized leaves but staying so low to the ground that it is hard to check them.

 

[johnlee1933]

My YTB seem to be bug magnets too. Finally getting some decent sized leaves but staying so low to the ground that it is hard to check them.

Yep, Seem everybody has back problems these days.

 

[DGBAMA]

Started an experiment with a ground level sucker 11 days ago while mounding extra dirt around my plants.

One of the ground level suckers I trimmed, I placed in a 9oz cup of my peat/starting mix with the soil totally saturated with water and the sucker pushed in as deeply as I could and the growth bud still show. See if it would sprout roots and become a viable plant.

Set the cup in an outdoor shaded area and watched it wilt to the point of looking like it would die the first 7 days, but each morning it looked OK. So I kept the soil soaking wet and let it be. Over the weekend, new visible growth; and today ROOTS visible in the cup. And they appear twice as thick as the roots of my original starts when they were put in the same cups.

Will watch it another week or so depending on continued root development then get it planted to see how it does. Maybe rooting suckers will produce good plants to get a jump on a second crop.





Only did one. Could have restarted several dozen plants in this manner. Just wanted to see how it would work.

 

[chillardbee]

Brilliant. Look at the leaf. If it grows and matures like a regular plant (why wouldn't it?) then those leaves are might turn huge. can't wait to see how it goes for you. I'm all excited over this!!! I think i'll have to try this this year.

 

[DGBAMA]

Hoping a 2" plant (sucker) with no roots will get out of the gate faster than a .5mm seed that may or may not even germinate. Let the fun begin.

In all fairness I should have started a few seeds of the same variety on the same day and compared results but did not think of it at the time.

 

[chillardbee]

What will be intresting, is to see its growth pattern and wether or not it will have more Nicotine in it. It obviously has more nicotine in it then a seedling would at the same ammount of days of growth. I..er...well...I've got it experience in growing another type of baccy, if ya get my drift (Back in the day and if i ever grew it now, the wife would hang me), anyway, It seems a plant gets more of it's active constituants after being cloned and the flowers were bigger.

There is one thing of concern though and that is flowering. If baccy is photo sensitive, being that the days are getting shorter could trigger it into flowering. On the other hand, with the plant putting energy into root development it might reset it's timing. If I remember correctly, last year on my sucker crop, the suckers didn't even go to flower even as late as november. So, what I'm trying to say is that there is hope in this.

 

[Boboro]

Thats the best way to get fall mators. Looks like it works well with baccer.

 

[DGBAMA]

Ordinarily I don't like anything in my garden that can bite or sting me, but the Red Wasp is now welcome in my patches anytime, I will just keep my didtance.

I just watched one kill and eat a baby hornworm off of one of my havannah plants. All he left behind as evidence was a blob of green and the little black horn. the rest of the worm was gone.

An interesting observation today on the Wasps.........starting to wonder if they can "smell" the "distress pheremone" that may be given off by the tobacco plant. Watching a couple cruising/hunting in the patch today and each time they actually landed on a leaf, it was beside a hole that had been created by a worm.

 

[Boboro]

I dont mind the reg. wasp but them big orange-red ones have to die. They to dam mean. I dont rember them from when I was young. Think they maybe nonative. Thease are the ones that get in holes in the house an fly out an sting for no reason.