My window and balcony: @johnny108

[johnny108]

Just air cure for now, No kilning.
I use it in snus, after a considerable resting time (longer than tobaccum) i get a berry like taste, quite plesant actually. Tho rediculusly strong on its own, and the texture isnt great(doesent stick together). I usually mix it with tubaccum at about 1/3 rustica to tubaccum... makes for a nice strong snus with good texture.

Have you tried sun curing it?
I'm doing this with Aztec and Lemonka, on my cars' dashboard (unpredictable daily wind and rain- no other choice).
It's been about 2 days, and the color is pretty good, and the smell seems improved (Green grass, rather than incontinent cat).

I got the idea from this thread
https://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/rustica-sun-curing.11249/#post-207281

 

[Bottenslam]

I havent no, i'll give it a try next year If the aztecs chooses to grace me with maturing leaves...

 

[johnny108]

Sun curing works- these are the very green Aztec leaves that were flash drying on the stalk, browning (and stinking) in the box, after a week or so on my car dashboard, parked facing south. Mostly cloudy, never higher than 80F.
The smell is immature tobacco, no cat, etc.
(The bottom horizontal leaf is the one that was yellowing by itself)

 

[johnny108]

Big thanks to Alpine for the seeds!
These are Lemonka, 32 days after topping. Suckered the entire time, except the end plant, which was allowed to flower, to satisfy the old ladies in the neighborhood who wanted to see them (and me, who wanted to see the difference in flavor and nicotine levels). These will hopefully be mild flavored with good burn characteristics, so they can replace a Virginia glue cured leaf in a mix with Xanthi.

 

[johnny108]

A 50/50 Virginia FLUE cure blend with Xanthi is an idea for a light, aromatic, but strong (nicotine) cigarette.
No glue will be used. Ducking autocorrect!

 

[johnny108]

Alpine is right- these “yellow” class Rusticas cure very easily.
Just stalk harvested and hanging in my cellar.

 

[Alpine]

I got those seeds from @polygon55 , both Limonka and Sultan Albanian are well suited for cigarettes and easy to cure (compared to other rusticas of course) as are all the “yellow” rusticas like yellow 106 or yellow 109… and a few others I can’t remember now…

pier

 

[johnny108]

I got those seeds from @polygon55 , both Limonka and Sultan Albanian are well suited for cigarettes and easy to cure (compared to other rusticas of course) as are all the “yellow” rusticas like yellow 106 or yellow 109… and a few others I can’t remember now…

pier

I haven't been able to find Sultan Albanian in his listings- have you got the page?
Lemonka ends up around 4-5% nicotine. And I'm sold as for it's smoothness and easy curing nature!
I managed to get an order from him a while ago- I got Pehlec 39/34, Prosechenskaya (Makorka No.8), Yurievskaya 96 (Juriewskaja 96)-
all varieties list as about 10% nicotine, with good raw material quality......Gotta wait till next spring- no space for an indoor grow.

 

[Alpine]

Султан Албанский | Сорта табака и махорки

Относится к сортотипу Желтая. Сорт не устойчив к болезням. Период от посадки до цветения - 40 дней. Растение низкорослое. Высота куста около 1 м. Количество технических листьев 9, длина листа среднего яруса 24,6 см, ширина - 23,8 см. Пластинка листа сердцевидная. Стебель ребристый. Урожай...

tobacco.professorhome.ru

Here it is. I still have seeds of Sultan.

pier

 

[johnny108]

September 30 until today- Jaffna root development in orchid bark mix.
Looks like a winner, plus they never showed signs of overwatering

 

[johnny108]

Султан Албанский | Сорта табака и махорки

Относится к сортотипу Желтая. Сорт не устойчив к болезням. Период от посадки до цветения - 40 дней. Растение низкорослое. Высота куста около 1 м. Количество технических листьев 9, длина листа среднего яруса 24,6 см, ширина - 23,8 см. Пластинка листа сердцевидная. Стебель ребристый. Урожай...

tobacco.professorhome.ru

Here it is. I still have seeds of Sultan.

pier

I still have seeds, too (thanks to you!).
Just couldn’t get them planted- not enough space.
How/what do they taste like?

 

[deluxestogie]

I realized today, for the first time, that the search box on @polygon55's website does not search both tabacum and rustica. I have to specifically navigate to the махорки (shag) catalog, before the search engine will find the Sultan Albania.

Bob

 

[Alpine]

I still have seeds, too (thanks to you!).
Just couldn’t get them planted- not enough space.
How/what do they taste like?

To my taste, Limonka and Sultan are almost indistinguishable when smoked in a cigarette, in the field Sultan usually has a couple of useable leaves more than Limonka, and the leaves are slightly bigger. Time from seed to harvest is the same, as is suckering.

pier

 

[johnny108]

To my taste, Limonka and Sultan are almost indistinguishable when smoked in a cigarette, in the field Sultan usually has a couple of useable leaves more than Limonka, and the leaves are slightly bigger. Time from seed to harvest is the same, as is suckering.

pier

They still need suckering, hanging upside down in my cellar!

 

[johnny108]

Yellow-109 at 31 days after topping, now in the better spot. Not as productive as the Lemonka. A sad, already topped (2 weeks ago) Jaffna in the big pot, and the sole surviving sucker crop Prilep.

 

[johnny108]

Osmocote time release fertilizer- NOT for use on Rusticas! The dark leaves to the right are drying green, not sure if sun curing could save them. I only did it with one plant, just to test: test results: FAIL

 

[johnny108]

Last man standing: Lemonka brought in just before the snow…

 

[johnny108]

 

[johnny108]

Samson seeds in a glass dish, surrounded by a banana peel, including the stem, which is where most of the ethylene is generated…..

 

[johnny108]

Aztec update:
The leaves were very green, and started drying green on the stalk, then, in a box, so onto car dashboard it went, where they browned and lost the unpleasant smell.
2 weeks in the kiln, plus one month of rest,
And the result is an excellent cigarette filler!
I can only describe it as Avery mild dark tobacco flavor.
A 2-pack per day smoker was impressed by its smoothness, and then had to grab the wall for balance as he finished half the cigarette….
Should make excellent blends with orientals.
As chewing tobacco, it was strange. The effect took a long time to come on, but it did- it was strong, but curiously relaxing, with good , but mild flavor.
If only the yields were better!