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Ordered my first starter pack of some chorizo fundido from WLT, wait maybe it was terrosa profunddo - something Spanish that sounds good anyway. Rolled the first one today and will probably try it later tonight. That's some nice looking leaf. Read some old reviews of people complaining about holes in the binder leaf of some of the WLT stuff, that certainly wasn't the case here. The binder leaf looked wrapper quality to me. The added cigar glue was also nice to have.
The cigar ain't pretty but neither am I so it works out;)
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Almost forgot to include my pics from yesterday. 1st pic Left to right hickory Pryor 27 day post germ, sherazi 30 d post germ, basma 30 d post germ. 2nd pic basma 30 d post germ. 3rd pic germ spitz.
Think I'll transplant later today if I get around to it.
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Almost forgot to include my pics from yesterday. 1st pic Left to right hickory Pryor 27 day post germ, sherazi 30 d post germ, basma 30 d post germ. 2nd pic basma 30 d post germ. 3rd pic germ spitz.
Think I'll transplant later today if I get around to it.
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How much does the germ spitz weigh? He looks a lot like our long haired Chihuahua. I call him a Mexican German Shepherd. If his size matched his attitude we’d have to put him down. Lol.
 

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How much does the germ spitz weigh? He looks a lot like our long haired Chihuahua. I call him a Mexican German Shepherd. If his size matched his attitude we’d have to put him down. Lol.
She was sold to us as a minitature American Eskimo (aka spitz, which matches her personality better) that wasn't supposed to get over 9 pounds. I think she is about 16 pounds, so much for being a mini. Her fur makes her look about twice her size. Her favorite past time is barking, barking, and oh yeah - more barking. She has even barked at mushrooms growing in the backyard before... They say spitz make excellent guard dogs, which they do. The only problem is trying to figure out when to take her barking seriously (i.e. is it an ax murderer or a mushroom).
She isn't just all bark though, she means business and is not afraid of much. We have to watch her when we take her for walks more than the cane corso. People always want to come up and pet the cute furry puppy, she lures them in looking adorable until they are within striking distances then goes for them. The cane corso on the other hand is ugly enough common sense tells most people not to try to pet him:)

The spitz are an interesting breed, but I will never own another one of them. Too loud.

I would be afraid to own a chihuahua out here. We get too many Hawks in the wintertime.
 

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I was going through some of my leaves today and realized I forgot to mention about the copius amount of hair that the little American Eskimo spitz thing sheds. I think every single leaf I have has at least 1 hair stuck to it...
 

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Just out of curiosity @GreenDragon or (anyone else) have you ever tried to freeze moistened leaves to rupture the cells in order to infuse them with their own juice, additive, or flavoring? I'm curious if this method might be an alternative to trying to press the leaf.
 

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One year I made a plug out of mid-ribs. I made it really wet, put it in and out of the freezer multiple times and continued to press it via vacuum sealing. I had no control group, but these ribs ended up as a slightly fermenty, chocolatey condiment tobacco. I don't know if the process worked, but if it did, it's because the tobacco was saturated water. Mid case tobacco wouldn't do anything.
 

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In my first year growing, one day the wife decided to brush out the dogs in the yard using the furminator. One of our dogs is quite the shedder. Anyway, she's happily brushing away, the fur collecting into huge dust bunnies as the wind rolls them across the deck then through the yard to land on several of my tobacco plants. The fur stuck like it was super-glued. I hoped that it would eventually wash off. Never did - finally I just pulled them up and tossed them.
 

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Some of our plants on the back porch get covered with hair. About the only way I've found to deal with a real mess of dog hair is to hand wash each individual leaf while workin the hair to the edges. Once the leaves are dry and hung about the only thing that seems to work is picking the hairs off manually. I've never tried a lint roller once the leaves are back in case though... Probably just easier to shave the dog and pretend like she is a Mexican hairless chihuahua or something.
 

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Planted 32 day post germ seedling of unknown Basma (4 plants in garden, 1 plant in 8 inch, short clay terra cotta pot), Sherazi (1plant in garden, 1 plant in 10 inch plastic pot) and one 29 day old Hickory Pryor into a 5 gallon glazed clay pot). Two more days of rain forcast so the garden tobaco seedlings will either get washed away or enjoy the cooler weather. The race to beat winter is on...
 

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None of the predicted rain and hoter than expected today. Apparently my weatherman and @deluxestogie weatherman went to the same school. Thought the seedlings I planted in the garden yesterday were going to be goners. They looked like dead shriveled up leaves. The clouds rolled in around noon and the late afternoon shade on the garden helped them semi recover. I have to keep reminding myself tobacco is a weed and to treat it as such. I stuck an even smaller Hickroy Pryor out in the garden this afternoon while planting a few cucmber and cilantro seeds. This is the plant torture grow log after all.
 

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Does any one know if sun curing is is useful for cigar tobacco? My impression is that sun curing generally yields a lighter colored and slightly sweeter leaf than conventional air curing.
Is kilning /aging the leaf after sun curing recommended?
 

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Cigar leaf (and burley) neither flue-cures nor sun-cures into anything you would want to smoke. Those methods truncate their ability to properly color-cure. And you can't "capture" their sugars, since they don't have the sugars to start with.

After sun-curing (Orientals or even Virginias), I usually kiln the leaf, to further smooth it. That's a matter of taste. You can kiln flue-cured Orientals and Virginias, depending on what you are aiming for. To preserve a bright lemon color and character, I do not kiln.

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