Thank you, the guys above have already prompted me.
I also stuffed my eye, now I notice a tuberosity, and a white vein, and curved edges
Experience is our everything
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Ripening and breaking of the leaf
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I also stuffed my eye, now I notice a tuberosity, and a white vein, and curved edges
Experience is our everything
))It’s such a miracle that it’s incomprehensible.
There are a couple of young bushes, my mother has planted tobacco all over the garden, but they have not bloomed yet.
When languishing, the leaf is not light yellow, but dark yellow, like the skin of an orange, dry they are dark brown
The aroma of dried leaves, heavy, intense, reminds me of the smell of Cuban cigars, but not when you smoke, but when you just bring the cigar to your nose to smell, we had a Havana brand store in the USSR, I bought cigars there.
I have not tried smoking a dry leaf.
That works.
Bob
Bob
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I will start with the fact that the varieties of Parliament or Parliamentary Hour does not exist. This is a marketing trick - to take the name of the popular brand of cigarettes for seeds. It is now very common in the stores of Russia and Ukraine.
Moldavian 456 (it is this variety that I sent for Skychaser) is a tobacco type Soviet large-leaf. These varieties were created by the crossing virginia and oriental tobacco. I think that this variety is FC type (or half aromatic).
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I can't find a topic about fermentation, how long on average should tobacco be kept in an oven at a temperature of 122-131 ????
Everywhere there is different information, someone writes 7 days, someone 14 days
I can't find a topic about fermentation, how long on average should tobacco be kept in an oven at a temperature of 122-131 ????
Everywhere there is different information, someone writes 7 days, someone 14 days
I have kilned tobacco at 128°F for 1 month in high humidity. (Above 122°F, it cannot grow mold.) I have compared this to kilning in the same conditions for 2 months. Kilned tobacco requires a resting period, after removing it from the kiln. With kilning for 1 month, the resting period may be as long as two years for certain cigar varieties. After kilning for 2 months, that resting period is shorter.
So now I kiln all my tobacco for 2 months. Orientals, burley, Maryland, dark air-cured and some other classes are ready almost immediately after kilning. Most cigar varieties require a rest of a few weeks, up to many months, before they taste ready.
Knowing when it is ready after kilning and resting is subjective. I have to periodically smoke some of it, and decide if it is fully aged.
Bob
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So now I kiln all my tobacco for 2 months. Orientals, burley, Maryland, dark air-cured and some other classes are ready almost immediately after kilning. Most cigar varieties require a rest of a few weeks, up to many months, before they taste ready.
Knowing when it is ready after kilning and resting is subjective. I have to periodically smoke some of it, and decide if it is fully aged.
Bob
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Can move the last two posts to the "Fermentation" section so that there is no flooding here.
I found an interesting work on fermentation in 1998 (ArmNIINTI), where they not only use different temperatures, but also different humidity, and describe fermentation in two stages, and their processes go quickly for 7-9 days.
True work in Russian.
I found an interesting work on fermentation in 1998 (ArmNIINTI), where they not only use different temperatures, but also different humidity, and describe fermentation in two stages, and their processes go quickly for 7-9 days.
True work in Russian.
High humidity???, 70% or more
Yes. Above 122°F, fungal growth is not a problem. I don't even monitor or measure the humidity in my kiln. Humid, not soggy.
Bob
I attempted to translate the document. My own poor "Scientific" Russian was better than Google Translate was able to achieve using copy-paste from the Russian pdf. (Copying the Russian orthography from the pdf is the source of most of the difficulty.) I simply cannot follow the article.
My initial thought is that it is discussing flue-curing, rather than fermentation of cigar tobacco. But I really can't understand it. I saw no graphs of temperatures and duration.
Bob
If you don't copypaste but give the whole pdf to google translate, the results are much more readable. You can do this by going https://translate.google.com, clicking on "Documents", then selecting the file and so on.
you cannot copy, you need to select the "documents" tab in Google Translate and point to the desired file, then it will translate
Here is @roman1967's research document in English. The translation is still strange (e.g. "fermentation" is translated as "booze"). I haven't had a chance to read it yet.
Timing Tobacco Fermentation Armenia 1998.pdf
Bob
Timing Tobacco Fermentation Armenia 1998.pdf
Bob
I have just finished reading the entire, tedious document (Timing Tobacco Fermentation Armenia 1998). I have no idea what people grow or smoke in Armenia, but the processes described in the article appear to be aimed at lowering mass processing costs, while paying minimal attention to the resulting tobacco quality. Although the translation is difficult to read in places, the underlying techniques are clear enough for me to state that I would not recommend using them. As an example, temps for "cigar tobacco" are higher than for "cigarette tobacco". Curiously, in the intervening two decades since the publication of these methods used in Armenia, their approach has not spread beyond their boundaries--and I am not sure if they still use them even within Armenia.
If a new grower proposed these "fermentation" methods, and asked what I thought about it, my response would be, "you are likely to ruin your tobacco using those methods."
CONCLUSION: Not recommended.
Bob
If a new grower proposed these "fermentation" methods, and asked what I thought about it, my response would be, "you are likely to ruin your tobacco using those methods."
CONCLUSION: Not recommended.
Bob
thank you very much for the review
over the past 20 years, in Armenia, as in Russia, nothing has been raised, taxes and excise taxes are such that it is cheaper to buy ready-made abroad
We in Russia now do not write on cigarettes as before, the content of nicotine and tar, one continuous counterfeit
we are slowly overtaking Africa
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