ChinaVoodoo
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Yeah, but did you catch that we were confused by the term "dark flue cured" which we are unfamiliar with? Was that a bit of an unintentional phrasing?
Robncars Growing in ND
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Robncars
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Yes China i caught that. Unintentional. Im going with a dark tobacco. And I'm going to flue cure it -if that makes a difference-. Im not sure yet if there are some that flue curing would turn out less desirable or not.
Robncars
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I don't think anyone is trying to give you a hard time, just confused with what you are after. I'm not sure flue cured would make a big difference for chew or is necessarily the best choice. My impression is people generally go with flue cured to get a little lighter colored sweeter flavored leaf for cigs and sometimes pipe tobacco.
My guess is most air cured/kilned varieties are going to be darker colored. Cooking them for chew should give a darker colored leaf. When I've cooked leaves at higher temps in the oven they tend to darken up. The question I think we both are kind of interested in are what is a good variety for chewing tobacoo?
I think burley types are probably going to be the general answer. I've seen small stalk black mammoth listed as a good multipurpose variety (not one I am currently growing). Are there other varieties people generally recommend is what I'm curious about as well...
Burley and Maryland are particularly good at absorbing added flavors. In general, the varieties for chew are entirely a matter of individual preferences.
- burley
- Maryland
- cigar filler
- cigar binder
- dark air-cured
- dark fire-cured
- Cavendish made from just about any variety
Robncars
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This one i see flowers on. Im getting antsy.
Robncars
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Don't worry about giving me a hard time. (Wife can verify I have no feelings lmao). Im going with flue cured because within a month or 2 of harvest (this year maybe before harvest) ill have snow on the ground. I dont think i could begin air curing so im "speed curing".
I think I want to grow about 5 varieties next year. I was thinking of a Turkish for a start.
The curing chambers can be multi-purpose, flue cure, kiln, or air cure. The only difference being the temperature and humidity settings used for that particular purpose. DGBAMA used his chamber for air curing due to the drought and low humidity one summer in our area. By curing inside the chamber, he was able to maintain ideal air curing conditions. His thread would be helpful for anyone wanting to air cure in inclement weather/climate. It can also be used for flue curing or kilning, opening up your options.
DGBAMA Redneck Curing Chamber Build
To preface, my intent this year as a first time grower was simply to have smokable at minimal cost. Grow, hang, dry, smoke..............Weather in the S.E. has been something of a "B#$%^" this year. Our August weather should be great for air curing......mid-upper 90s w/ good...
Robncars
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Looking through Northwoods I picked these varieties for next year.
Incekara
Stag Horn
Big Gem
One Sucker
I already have enough Rustica seeds.......(if you missed it I order a 1/2 oz.....
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Incekara
Stag Horn
Big Gem
One Sucker
I already have enough Rustica seeds.......(if you missed it I order a 1/2 oz.....
)
ChinaVoodoo
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I already have enough Rustica seeds.......(if you missed it I order a 1/2 oz.....
I would consider guerilla gardening those. Start a thousand or so, and plant them along train tracks, in public flower displays, etc.
Robncars
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I dont think i have a gardening club within 500 miles. LMAO.Tell your local gardening club the rustica are xeriscapeing plants and have them grow those for you
Robncars
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ChinaVoodoo
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Sorry, I don't think we can tell just from the flowers
Robncars
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Im about 90%, ok maybe 75% sure it isn't rustica.Definetly tobacco
Sorry, not a clue. Pink flowers so it shouldn't be rustica
It should not have lamina all the way to the stalk to be a true rustica.
I guess i could condense a few leaf pics with the flower picture but honestly I'm just curious at this point
Robncars
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What is your list of possibilities?
Bob
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Robncars
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Tobacco Seeds - Golden Seal Special Burley
Tobacco Seeds - Brown Leaf Dark Air / Fire
Tobacco Seeds - Greenwood Dark Air / Fire
Tobacco Seeds - Tennessee Dark Air Cured
Tobacco Seeds - Burley
Tobacco Seeds - Virginia Gold
Tobacco Seeds - Sm Black Mammoth
Tobacco Seeds - Black Sea Samsun Turkish
Tobacco Seeds - Connecticut Shade Leaf
Tobacco Seeds - Havana
Tobacco Seeds - Connecticut Broadleaf
Tobacco Seeds - Virginia Brightleaf
Tobacco Seeds - Perique
Tobacco Seeds - Brown Leaf Dark Air / Fire
Tobacco Seeds - Greenwood Dark Air / Fire
Tobacco Seeds - Tennessee Dark Air Cured
Tobacco Seeds - Burley
Tobacco Seeds - Virginia Gold
Tobacco Seeds - Sm Black Mammoth
Tobacco Seeds - Black Sea Samsun Turkish
Tobacco Seeds - Connecticut Shade Leaf
Tobacco Seeds - Havana
Tobacco Seeds - Connecticut Broadleaf
Tobacco Seeds - Virginia Brightleaf
Tobacco Seeds - Perique
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