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For milling wood, I would likely set up the process in a different way to account for how wood molds are historically built. Looking forward to my winter... Let's keep talking.

Never having held a wooden mold all I have for reference is pictures on the net, they appear to be a series of individual molds glued to a substrate. So with that in mind maybe cutting these out as you would plastic then with the mold halves joined rip individual molds on a bandsaw (minimal waste) If done this way molds could be expanded to 10 sticks each using hard wood plywood for the substrate. Am I on track here?
 

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Never having held a wooden mold all I have for reference is pictures on the net, they appear to be a series of individual molds glued to a substrate. So with that in mind maybe cutting these out as you would plastic then with the mold halves joined rip individual molds on a bandsaw (minimal waste) If done this way molds could be expanded to 10 sticks each using hard wood plywood for the substrate. Am I on track here?
I think those old molds manufactured the cavities individually to reduce waste and ensure you have a bank of functional halves.

Depending on grain orientation you might be able to mill a bank out of one solid piece of wood... Or you might make several individuals and adhere / fasten them to something stable like plywood.

We can try a few different ways. By winter I may have a mill set back up again.
 

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Only posting to say thanks Adam, a coworker is kind of eccentric and obsessed with his new 3D print hobby so after a year of hearing about it I sent him a file and by golly it worked! He brought me this cool mold and I gave him $20. Fit and finish is pretty good too!
 

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Thank you, and Glad you are able to try one.... Designs are getting improvements the more I make them. One item I was not originally tracking is the expectation on mold size labeling is typically"as wrapped" not as molded. That 48x6.5 will produce 50rg when wrapped.

That said... A lot of the commercial cigars I measure tend to be slightly under advertised size.

At some point I will go back and fix all these labels.
 

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Thank you, and Glad you are able to try one.... Designs are getting improvements the more I make them. One item I was not originally tracking is the expectation on mold size labeling is typically"as wrapped" not as molded. That 48x6.5 will produce 50rg when wrapped.

That said... A lot of the commercial cigars I measure tend to be slightly under advertised size.

At some point I will go back and fix all these labels.
The intricate details of cigar mfg are fascinating to me, but I fear that Im a nerd. Then again with homerolls most of my focus lately is with blending and the slight imperfections of wrinkled caps or various lengths lends itself to an "artisanal" quality of a finished cigar. If you think about it this hobby is very broad and I believe that is why I have yet to get bored with it. Most Torcedors at the factories don't get involved in growing, and those working the fields don't roll cigars. From the books and information I have taken in the "Master Blender" requires the well rounded experience of all the jobs. Good thing as a hobbyist I dont have to worry about Marketing and Distribution then it would feel like a job.
 

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General note: these models are offered for free. I made them for myself and glad to share. If anyone wants to throw me a bone or two, I have a different recommendation. If you use Amazon for any online shopping, At the bottom of my thingiverse post I have some affiliate links. Occasionally use one of those to shop for what you need on Amazon, and I will receive a small percentage. You get what you need to shop for, and I get a small donation.
 

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I started designing one, but its not ready yet. I moved on to other projects since I have other means of getting the job done.
One guy made one , looks great and he's selling the cutters for $500 ...


I'm just starting this 3d printing stuff but this guys seems way advanced being able to print out moving parts.
 

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I'm thinking along the lines of converting your files to g-code and cutting them out on a CNC machine, but that will be a winter time job for me, my CNC is just a small one that needs to be baby sat during operation.
While this thread is active I'll chime in to say that I've given up on the idea of wood molds after realizing I'm technologically challenged, the software is too complicated for me ( if I cant do it in tinkercad it aint happening), so I bit the bullet and bought a 3d printer and as I'm typing have one on the build plate printing away.:)
 

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Cody makes good stuff, but he isn't charging $500
I believe on Etsy they go for $509.09. He does make some very pretty molds and other stuff.
Digging further, this may be for his kit; a tuck cutter, a cigar mold and some cap cutters or maybe not, various listings with different descriptions.
 
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While this thread is active I'll chime in to say that I've given up on the idea of wood molds after realizing I'm technologically challenged, the software is too complicated for me ( if I cant do it in tinkercad it aint happening), so I bit the bullet and bought a 3d printer and as I'm typing have one on the build plate printing away.:)
Next time you get ready to print, let me know, more than willing to help make sure you get a mold that you want
 

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You might wait to drill the molds until after you have used them a couple times. Depending on your infil, the drilling might make things worse.

I have used everything on the thingiverse site that I have posted to mold cigars... Thanks for trying it out for yourself.

I know folks like the pins because all the wood molds have then, but I have never personally needed them.

When you are ready to do another size, let me know. I do have a designed feature to help with alignment that is like pins, but easier to print. I have not personally tested it, but maybe you might have enough interest to try.
 

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I am not really sure what this means? I typically use a shop press to clamp the two molds together.
I mean when storing or picking up or putting down the mold its very easy for the two parts to slip off. They are pretty light so I use a rubber band to keep the pieces together, that's why I mentioned adding pins.
If pins are problematic then maybe adding an outside edge at the 4 corners of the bottom or top piece.
For pressing, I use two Irwin QUICK-GRIP Mini Bar Clamps and have no issues the way the mold is now.

This is just a suggestion, I am very appreciative of the work you've done and generosity in providing these mold templates.
 
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