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I find the best time to light up is early in the morning when I go out to weed, sucker and marvel at my tobacco patch

you forgot to mention the light mist of fog, as it snakes thru the row's,

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and KNUCKLEHEAD im not sure the route, but i'll let ya know when that time comes,<
 

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My stems seem might thin where they meet the soil. Is this normal? A couple have fallen over. My fertilizer reading is 715ppm for the virginia and 850ppm for the Burley. I will add fertilizer, but is this the problem? My water reads 120 so it's not really that low.

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Knuclehead, they need more sunlight. When you put them in a sunny place you'll see their recovery in 1-2 days.
 

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OK guys, thank you kindly. Cloudy and rainy next few days, but I'll put them out and let them get what they can. The temps at night are getting to be above 40 degrees so I'll be moving the entire float beds outside pretty soon and cover them with plastic at night.
 

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Lower your lights to about 2 " above their heads... Also I noticed that root and possibly stem growth occured when lites were out........... After a plant gets so old, continuous liting and any eventualy diminishing of it will cause early maturity so I wont keep mine on for 24/7 anymore after first week of life.

Also watch your water. the stems look ok now but watch for any sign of discoloration on them or bottom leaves almost molding when they lay on ground. You look good tho all in all to me.
 

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even behind glass would help. You could over every window ledge,space in the house and then follow the light.

I've got the low E windows in my house. BigBonner said that's why my plants were dying until I got the grow lights. He said house plants won't even do good in front of the low E glass. The temps are about warm enough so I can move the float trays, frames with water and fertilizer and the whole shooting match outside. I may try to do that tomorrow. They are giving rain but not thunderstorms so maybe the winds won't be bad. I'll put them on the covered porch to start with.
 

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Lower your lights to about 2 " above their heads... Also I noticed that root and possibly stem growth occured when lites were out........... After a plant gets so old, continuous liting and any eventualy diminishing of it will cause early maturity so I wont keep mine on for 24/7 anymore after first week of life.

Also watch your water. the stems look ok now but watch for any sign of discoloration on them or bottom leaves almost molding when they lay on ground. You look good tho all in all to me.

Tonights the first night I had the lights out. I also pulled the float trays out of the water to let them dry out a little. Then I'll plop them back into the water/fertilizer tomorrow and put the lights back on them. The lights were about two inches above them anyway, I had already raised the water level to bring the float trays up to the lights more. Here's the thread on float trays, you may have already read it:
http://fairtradetobacco.com/showthread.php?18-Tell-me-about-float-tray-systems
 

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I think it's low emissions. It helps with cooling and heating, they're double pane with nitrogen in between. They also have a light tint to them. I guess they're cutting off some of the UV or some spectrum of light that the plants need. I had to replace about half of the plants or more before I got the grow lights. Then they quit dying and started growing.
 

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Knucks, I saw you were having that problem with thin stems. One thing I found that helped me this year immensely was having a "black out" period every night. I left my lights on for a couple weeks. As soon as I let the lights turn off at night, I noticed substantial thickening of plant and stem. One they have recovered, a slight breeze also helps get the plants hardier. (Just make sure it doesn't dry out your soil)
 

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ahh jeez what ever happened to plain old panes of glass and curtains.... lol

Those are turning up in all the skips outside the houses I drive past every day as everyone rips them out and puts in eWindows (or is that Mac?) ... providing a nice constant free supply of perfectly good glass for turning in to a bodged together greenhouse on the allotment.

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Knucks, I saw you were having that problem with thin stems. One thing I found that helped me this year immensely was having a "black out" period every night. I left my lights on for a couple weeks. As soon as I let the lights turn off at night, I noticed substantial thickening of plant and stem. One they have recovered, a slight breeze also helps get the plants hardier. (Just make sure it doesn't dry out your soil)

Thanks Jeremy. good info. I've alot to learn about this indoor stuff.
 

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You're doing just fine! Your plants look like mine did last year, I was able to learn in just 1 season, I'm sure you can too!

Also, if you want to help your plants recover (depending on the leaf size) you can actually trim 1/2 of the leaf off (just not the bud aka the part that's growing). Some people also mound up some dirt around the stem to hold it up better, the stem that is buried will become part of the root structure.
 

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I'll go ahead and trim the larger plants' leaf. There are about three different sizes in the same trays due to the dying off until I got lights. I also have some BigBonner float tray dirt left so I'll mound up around the ones that need the most help. Rain today and tomorrow, it may be Sunday before I get the plants outside. But you were right about it being time to cut the lights off at night, it looks like they jumped a foot last night with no light. (Ok I'm exaggerating a little)
 
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