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Bex

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Fear is a wonderful thing - fear of ebola, fear of cancer, fear of economic disaster, fear of terrorism. We forgot about meteors - 'statistics' indicate that this is an eventuality. Oh, and don't forget the supervolcano in Yellowstone. Long overdue.....
A bit of philosophy: if you're meant to be hanged, you'll never be drowned.....;)
 

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The CDC has calculated that flu shots last year accounted for a 60% reduction in the flu (for those getting the shot). I do not know how they came up with this figure though. The problem with flu shots and the CDC agrees with but does not readily admit is that Type A flu changes form like the wind changes direction. The shot you get today probably ill not prevent you from getting the flu next month. Type B flu is much more stable. Last year the predominant flu strains were H1N1 and H3N2 along with Influenza B. With that said, I'll stick to BHT. It is a readily accepted fact that BHT strips off the lipid coat of all lipid coated viruses. BHT also has extended the mean life span of animals receiving it.

From a personal growth standpoint I really would like to know more about the yearly flu. The CDC seems to keep everything kind of hush hush. The other thing that worries me about the flu vacine is that it has never been tested for safety. How do we know that the (almost) epidemics of cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer's etc are not caused by the high doses of mercury that get injected into our system?

Just like the "X" Files... somewhere out there is the truth. In the meantime I'll stick with BHT, which I have been taking for approximately 30 years.
 

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Flu vaccines are made from the flu strain from the year before - so whatever mutation comes along this year, the vaccine will not prevent it. The vaccine always lags a year behind.
We seem to pick and choose the things that bother/frighten us, with regard to health, death, etc. This discussion is somewhat interesting to be present on this forum, considering this forum is totally about tobacco - governments throughout the world are attempting to make smoking in any form a socially unacceptable behavior. Medicial 'information' concludes that our practice of using tobacco will most probably affect our health at some point in our future. Yet, it appears, we don't accept this determination - we are growing, sourcing and smoking tobacco - that heinous plant - so potent that even someone smoking in the same vicinity as us can impact our health. So, why are we smoking? For whatever reason, we find this 'information' unacceptable. It instills no fear in us. Funny, no??
The 'umbrella term' of cancer, by the way, encompasses over 100 diseases. To presume that Essaic, or any other herbal or alternative therapy is a cure all for all of them is a bit of a misnomer. What these alternatives succeeded in doing - when they succeeded, which is normally based on anecdotal information - is rid the body of toxins so that the immune system would re-direct its effort toward cancer cells - sometimes successful, sometimes not. We each have cancer cells in us all the time - while we are healthy, our immune system does its job destroying them. And yes, I am pretty much an advocate of Vitamin C - if you do only ONE thing to strengthen your health, then this is the thing to do. And not just any old drug store Vitamin C, either - it needs to be a good quality product, preferably not in pill form, and combined with minerals so that it can be absorbed.....
 

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The CDC seems to keep everything kind of hush hush.
I have received (first by mail, now by email) two Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Reports (MMWR) from the CDC for the past 44 years. If there's one thing they do well it's being very non-hush hush.

Anybody can go to www.cdc.gov and run a search on their gargantuan assemblage of reports, assessments and statistics. Want to know how many American children die of influenza each year (probably not), just run a search. Want info on Ebola, run a search. It does not contain any of the colorful information you'll get from Russia Times (http://rt.com), which is a branch of TV-Novosti, or on Fox News. Just actual studies and statistics. Sorry.

About that super volcano...

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Remember back in the 50's (I don't) when it became cool to distrust the government? Then, in the 60's it was "hip" to distrust government. Now those hippies run the government and they think it's not cool anymore to distrust the government. Well, I've got some bad news, it's still cool to distrust the government, but now we have good reason.

It's kind of like when a spouse cheats. There can never be the same trust one had before the act. Our government has lied to us and we have every right to distrust them now...it's human nature.

Nobody here has been routing for an ebola epidemic, but few haven't been running dry rehearsals in our heads in the event there was one. I think we would all be happier to say we're wrong than to be proven right.

Yeah, Yellowstone blowing her lid would make ebola look like a picnic.
 

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Hmmm....it may be a bit of a generalization that the activists/hippies of the 60's are now running the government - just by virtue of their generation. Government, in one way or another, has been 'distrusted' for generations - it was not something that suddenly arose in the 1950's, although it certainly got more media attention during the '60's. And now that information is so accessible, what's been happening all along is just more public and apparent. In the 1940's, it took weeks for some issues to become public - if they ever did at all. Now everything is immediately accessible.
 

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Ok, here's a video I stumbled across, but I have to put a disclaimer on here, because I haven't watched it all, and I can't confirm or deny "natural remedies" listed here, nor opinions expressed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RnSibGG2Q0&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg

Prisonplanet...ok, perhaps this is not the venue in which to get involved in politics,etc., but I give Alex Jones very little credence. Most of 'infowar' information does a fairly good job in attempting to incite a bit of paranoia, fear, conspiracy, etc., etc. That's pretty much his 'schtick' - and rather aligned with Fox News, as well. That's one of the things about the internet - it affords everyone the opportunity to voice their opinions, whether they are qualified or their information is accurate, etc...if you are then looking for information, you need to trawl through all of this mish mash and try to sort out the info - researching the 'researcher' so to speak. For me, I'm simply going to 'follow the money' - the rich and powerful are not going to succumb to Ebola if they can help it. I'll just do what they do. :)
 

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Prisonplanet...ok, perhaps this is not the venue in which to get involved in politics,etc., but I give Alex Jones very little credence. Most of 'infowar' information does a fairly good job in attempting to incite a bit of paranoia, fear, conspiracy, etc., etc. That's pretty much his 'schtick' - and rather aligned with Fox News, as well. That's one of the things about the internet - it affords everyone the opportunity to voice their opinions, whether they are qualified or their information is accurate, etc...if you are then looking for information, you need to trawl through all of this mish mash and try to sort out the info - researching the 'researcher' so to speak. For me, I'm simply going to 'follow the money' - the rich and powerful are not going to succumb to Ebola if they can help it. I'll just do what they do. :)

This is "why" I put a disclaimer on it.
 

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This works pretty good too:
...and if you don't live in Africa:

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looks like a hospital worker that treated thomas duncan has come down with it...

will we have a update on each case, that happens in the future,,,[ sort of like a HOMELAND SECURITY UPDATE] days after 9/11..all we seen was the director each night. and all americans were closelly glued to what he said,

or will they TO AVOID A PANIC''. not let the public know its spreading uncontrollablly.
 

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looks like a hospital worker that treated thomas duncan has come down with it...

She was following protocol by wearing full on hazmat gear. The good news is we are assured by the highest medical authority in the land that you cannot catch ebola by sitting next to a victim on the bus. I suggest a new protocol: Discard the hazmat suits. Only treat patients while sitting next to them on a bus.
 

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That case and its explanation are problematic, in terms of logic. Nobody knows how that worker was exposed, despite the hazmat suit.

Syllogism:
  • Major premise: The hazmat protocol protects all who use it correctly.
  • Minor premise: The worker was not protected.
  • Conclusion: Therefore, the worker did not follow the protocol correctly.
The weak point here is the major premise. Rather than suggesting that there may or may not be a deficiency in the hazmat protocol, the CDC has prematurely stated in a press release that there must have been a breach in the protocol. Maybe there was, and maybe there was not.

An intellectually more rigorous assessment is that either there was a breach or the hazmat protocol is currently insufficient or incomplete.

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...An intellectually more rigorous assessment is that either there was a breach or the hazmat protocol is currently insufficient or incomplete.

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I think that's the rub, I don't like being treated like a six year old. My assessment of their honesty is dropping almost daily now, it's not a comforting thought.
 
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