US Nicotiana Germplasm Collection 2013 Nursery

[Fisherman]

they do use a supplemental fertilizer in the float tray water. i think its just peters, but i can ask.

also, i dont think anyone can count. it was exactly 10 weeks from seed to setting in the field, with 57 days in the float trays.

Hah! Guess she told us

 

[Knucklehead]

Sky got it dead on. My new mathmagician.

 

[JessicaNicot]

Are the Mountain Stations just luck of the draw (where they happen to be), or do you do specific things at higher elevation?

most of the mountain station work i believe is for selecting the best adapted burley breeding lines. commercial burley production tends to take place at higher elevations where the temps are cooler, altho there has been some interest in growing burley at lower levels in NC (well at least there was a few years ago before we started regularly seeing temps in the 100s). the mountain stations used to be pivitol for breeding against blue mold, but the occurance of that disease has basically disappeared in NC.

 

[BigBonner]

most of the mountain station work i believe is for selecting the best adapted burley breeding lines. commercial burley production tends to take place at higher elevations where the temps are cooler, altho there has been some interest in growing burley at lower levels in NC (well at least there was a few years ago before we started regularly seeing temps in the 100s). the mountain stations used to be pivitol for breeding against blue mold, but the occurance of that disease has basically disappeared in NC.

University of KY grows test plots every year . I see them along I-75 in Lexington KY DR Will Smith has been there a long time working in the tobacco research . They do help develop a lot of new varietys of tobacco .
I know they have worked with Carolina research . They have some of the best land in KY to work with , along with the best basketball players .

 

[Boboro]

I cant play basketball.

 

[JessicaNicot]

University of KY grows test plots every year . I see them along I-75 in Lexington KY DR Will Smith has been there a long time working in the tobacco research . They do help develop a lot of new varietys of tobacco .
I know they have worked with Carolina research . They have some of the best land in KY to work with , along with the best basketball players .

the only time i was ever in kentucky was for the 44th tobacco workers conference back in january 2010. it was in lexington. it was really pretty flying in- all those lush green horse pastures. leaving lexington sucked tho because 2 different planes broke and i eventually had the airline put me up in a hotel for the night. it took 24 hours before i was able to leave...

 

[Fisherman]

Note to self: Don't fly Kentucky.................... 33% success rate sucks

 

[johnlee1933]

the only time i was ever in kentucky was for the 44th tobacco workers conference back in january 2010. it was in lexington. it was really pretty flying in- all those lush green horse pastures. leaving lexington sucked tho because 2 different planes broke and i eventually had the airline put me up in a hotel for the night. it took 24 hours before i was able to leave...

I used to fly to the Caribbean quite a lot and had similar problems several times. I always counted my blessings. They could have said "What the h--- and flown anyway." I agree time is precious. I don't want mine cut short by sloppy safety. You got home late but you got home!

 

[Ashauler]

snip........ along with the best basketball players .

I'm not so sure about the above.
Rock-Chalk-....I'm sure you know the rest!!

 

[JessicaNicot]

a look at the field on Thursday



there were a number of accessions with command damage this year



and this is what happens when the plants were in the float trays too long



i pulled this plant out of a float tray. its about 2.5 ft tall.

 

[Knucklehead]

Regarding the Command damage, will it benefit the plant to remove leaves like that? Some of the lower leaves on my tobacco plants were half eaten by insects. Should I leave the remainder of the leaf for bait, or snip it so the plant can begin repairs?

 

[workhorse_01]

Being that this was a float tray problem and not genetically modified this trait wont carry over right? Seeds from that plant properly attended will grow to normal size and shape? If so it would make sense to make a plant bolt early, use it for seed, then top the normal sized plants for a wider heavier harvest, and let none of the main crop seed out. Would you agree?


and this is what happens when the plants were in the float trays too long
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[JessicaNicot]

Regarding the Command damage, will it benefit the plant to remove leaves like that? Some of the lower leaves on my tobacco plants were half eaten by insects. Should I leave the remainder of the leaf for bait, or snip it so the plant can begin repairs?

i think that it would likely depend on how many leaves your plants have. if theyre small with only a couple leaves, it might be best to keep what is left of the leaves in order to keep a good level of photosynthesis, but if the plants are already well established, you may as well divert resources into making new leaves (ie rip off the damaged leaves).

for the command damage, these plants will eventually recover and green back up. the tissue isnt dead, the chlorophyll has just been bleached out. the damage results in some stunting versus a plant that wasnt exposed to command.

 

[JessicaNicot]

Being that this was a float tray problem and not genetically modified this trait wont carry over right? Seeds from that plant properly attended will grow to normal size and shape? If so it would make sense to make a plant bolt early, use it for seed, then top the normal sized plants for a wider heavier harvest, and let none of the main crop seed out. Would you agree?

it is an environmental response, not a genetic mutation so seed from this plant would be normal. in theory your idea is sound, but these tiny plants dont produce much seed at all. there are definite impacts of changing plant size. my boss developed this really amazing accelerated backcrossing technique using a gmo approach where the plants flower about 8" high (and you can go from seed to next generation seed in like 90 days), but these plants only make at most about 10 flowers.

 

[Knucklehead]

Being that this was a float tray problem and not genetically modified this trait wont carry over right? Seeds from that plant properly attended will grow to normal size and shape? If so it would make sense to make a plant bolt early, use it for seed, then top the normal sized plants for a wider heavier harvest, and let none of the main crop seed out. Would you agree?

As pointed out to me by Deluxestogie and Skychaser, you want to bag the plant that holds truest to type. Stunting the plants will not allow you to identify true to type for the particular variety. As Sky pointed out, if you'er not familiar with the variety, you may need to look at several plants to know what true to type is. That is why he grows at least 20 plants per variety. True to type is pretty apparent with that many plants. Then you pick the best one with other traits you may like to bag.(fewer suckers, biggest leaves, healthiest, first to flower, etc.)

 

[jekylnz]

Hah! Guess she told us

Being that this was a float tray problem and not genetically modified this trait wont carry over right? Seeds from that plant properly attended will grow to normal size and shape? If so it would make sense to make a plant bolt early, use it for seed, then top the normal sized plants for a wider heavier harvest, and let none of the main crop seed out. Would you agree?

As pointed out to me by Deluxestogie and Skychaser, you want to bag the plant that holds truest to type. Stunting the plants will not allow you to identify true to type for the particular variety. As Sky pointed out, if you'er not familiar with the variety, you may need to look at several plants to know what true to type is. That is why he grows at least 20 plants per variety. True to type is pretty apparent with that many plants. Then you pick the best one with other traits you may like to bag.(fewer suckers, biggest leaves, healthiest, first to flower, etc.)

Will they carry those traits?? Or does it really matter..I read a article about them getting seed for the next crop from craps leftovers..that were cut above the bottom sucker for a sucker flower crop. So you would never know how good or craps the parent was?? (Unless you had marked the good ones..this is how I'll be getting my seed in future. .then you can harvest..then grow for seed..like I said I'll just mark the best ones though! ?

 

[leverhead]

it is an environmental response, not a genetic mutation so seed from this plant would be normal. in theory your idea is sound, but these tiny plants dont produce much seed at all. there are definite impacts of changing plant size. my boss developed this really amazing accelerated backcrossing technique using a gmo approach where the plants flower about 8" high (and you can go from seed to next generation seed in like 90 days), but these plants only make at most about 10 flowers.

That does sound amazing! that would cut years out of a project.

 

[DonH]

Last year I got some Rustica seeds late and thought I might have time to grow a few and started some seeds but ended up not planting them. I had the plants in red 12 oz cups. They didn't die so in the fall I brought a couple into the house then completely neglected them. I went several months without watering them, didn't have them in good light but they still flowered twice and produced a few seed pods twice. They are still alive. Amazing.

 

[workhorse_01]

I ordered seed from one of the small heirloom places, they had some very serious health issues and I didn't get my tomatoe seeds until very late in the year so I planted them in a giant pot . When it got cold I brought them in. I did this for two years, the same plant. The wild thing is the number of tomatoes I got from it before it played out, and now I found a plant under the porch from a tomatoe that fell off. I'm nursing it!

Last year I got some Rustica seeds late and thought I might have time to grow a few and started some seeds but ended up not planting them. I had the plants in red 12 oz cups. They didn't die so in the fall I brought a couple into the house then completely neglected them. I went several months without watering them, didn't have them in good light but they still flowered twice and produced a few seed pods twice. They are still alive. Amazing.

 

[NRustica]

That is extremely generous and awesome. Thank you.