Boboro's 2013 grow log.

[DGBAMA]

ok cool is that a special item to order or can you get at most co-ops or walmarts

Most co-ops will have it.

In powdered/dust form it is called "Diepel Dust"
In liquid sprayable form "Thuricide"

 

[chillardbee]

so when do you take the flower off the ones you pick to keep seed from. when you harvest the plant. and what is the best way to store the seed for growing the nest year.

I just wanted to add something here too about seed collection. Last year I waited for 10 pods to turn brown before I hacked the plant down. As it hung upside down the seed pods continued to mature so that 30 more pods turned brown over the next 4-5 weeks giving me a total of about 40-50 seed pods/plant. What I liked about this is that the plant can be in a controlled inviroment while the seeds are maturing. This year I will wait for an average of 15 pods to turn brown on any given variety to finally stalk harvest the plant and let as many pods after that mature and turn brown. If I do get 50 pods/plant, that will be 200 pods/variety, which I think is good enough for me to use next year, trade with members here, and sell some.

 

[Fisherman]

spencerperson ,remember to start a spraying schedule for the BT as traditionally most people say it won't kill the bigger caterpillars. Maybe the dust will???????????

 

[johnlee1933]

I just wanted to add something here too about seed collection. Last year I waited for 10 pods to turn brown before I hacked the plant down. As it hung upside down the seed pods continued to mature so that 30 more pods turned brown over the next 4-5 weeks giving me a total of about 40-50 seed pods/plant. What I liked about this is that the plant can be in a controlled inviroment while the seeds are maturing. This year I will wait for an average of 15 pods to turn brown on any given variety to finally stalk harvest the plant and let as many pods after that mature and turn brown. If I do get 50 pods/plant, that will be 200 pods/variety, which I think is good enough for me to use next year, trade with members here, and sell some.

Yes, and if you screen them 600µ and 400µ you can get out all the chaff and discard the immature seeds. Yields nice clean graded seed and the screens are cheap (~US $7).

 

[Fisherman]

I got 3.5 oz seeds [unscreened] from 4 plants. I will get the screens and see the difference in yield. I did use a tea strainer tho and they came pretty clean. No sence having bad or immature seeds mixed in for sure.

 

[skychaser]

I just wanted to add something here too about seed collection. Last year I waited for 10 pods to turn brown before I hacked the plant down. As it hung upside down the seed pods continued to mature so that 30 more pods turned brown over the next 4-5 weeks giving me a total of about 40-50 seed pods/plant. What I liked about this is that the plant can be in a controlled inviroment while the seeds are maturing. This year I will wait for an average of 15 pods to turn brown on any given variety to finally stalk harvest the plant and let as many pods after that mature and turn brown. If I do get 50 pods/plant, that will be 200 pods/variety, which I think is good enough for me to use next year, trade with members here, and sell some.

Sell them? No offense intended, but that is a 3rd rate way of producing seed at best. If you want to do that for your own seed stash, fine. But don't spread them around and degrade the varieties. I wouldn't give you 2 cents for them myself.

 

[AmaxB]

Sell them? No offense intended, but that is a 3rd rate way of producing seed at best. If you want to do that for your own seed stash, fine. But don't spread them around and degrade the varieties. I wouldn't give you 2 cents for them myself.

Good stuff here..
So a few real Rookie questions from a Real Rookie 1st time grower.
Am aware of bagging so the question on this is...After bagging and the flower head grows becoming all bunched does it matter?
Second question what is the best procedure for obtaining the pods after bagging would it be leaving leaves at the top of the stalk and waiting for the time to take the pods or something other?

 

[Boboro]

My next hangin space. ButI have to tote it up thease stairs.

 

[DGBAMA]

Don't think you have enough room there.

 

[Boboro]

I have the open shed and I hope to free up some space in the curein shed.

 

[spencerpearson]

wow thats a nice shed friend. ok i got the post to me on the screen but is that to clean and sort the small ones from the big ones. or just to clean and what is chaff. 600and 400 measurements.

 

[spencerpearson]

i was just thinking do you guys think using horse manure would be ok for the bacco. or chicken. i have a bun-dent surplus of horse from a friend and there stall feed so some hay but mostly feed seeing how there show horses.

 

[johnlee1933]

i was just thinking do you guys think using horse manure would be ok for the bacco. or chicken. i have a bun-dent surplus of horse from a friend and there stall feed so some hay but mostly feed seeing how there show horses.

Well composted to kill weed seed it is an acceptable fertilizer and source of organics.

 

[spencerpearson]

ok cool i have it and its been his stalls for over 3 months so its like dry and no weeds yet in my garden were i tryed it to check for that so i think i am ok on the weeds. you think adding my wood ash from my burn pile would be to much. my soil is clay sand stone type soil. i could been a shovel pretty easy

 

[spencerpearson]

fruit trees and my grass love the soil. but i was going to break it up and under till it with the manure and wood ash

 

[deluxestogie]

Since horses consume (but do not digest) many weed seeds, if you just till horse manure into the ground, you will likely introduce a lot of weeds into the soil. Horse manure should (as John said) be well composted before tilling into garden soil. By "well composted," I mean that the compost pile must be large enough and insulated enough to spontaneously heat itself sufficiently to destroy the weed seeds.

Bob

 

[spencerpearson]

ok good to know. i got cha now. i will start composting it now so when its time it will be good and seed free.

 

[Boboro]

Yesterday after work an most of today I got it cleaned up. Found a mumifide squirrel.

 

[johnlee1933]

fruit trees and my grass love the soil. but i was going to break it up and under till it with the manure and wood ash

Good but be careful with the wood ash. Tobacco likes slightly acid soil and wood ash pushes it basic. Maybe get or do a Ph test before you apply it.

 

[spencerpearson]

top floor looking good there. and thanks on the advice on the wood ash my soil is acid like aready so maybe i want use it.