I started seeds early, planted out early, and am on the other side of the ocean, still, my Little Dutch plants stayed remarkably small, like Orientals. Very aromatic, though (but, since it was the first time, I can't compare to "normal-size" aroma). They are stalk-curing for 1.5 months in a quite dark place, many leaves are still alive and green. Occasionally, they try to push another flower. Very hardy plants.
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I started seeds early, planted out early, and am on the other side of the ocean, still, my Little Dutch plants stayed remarkably small, like Orientals. Very aromatic, though (but, since it was the first time, I can't compare to "normal-size" aroma). They are stalk-curing for 1.5 months in a quite dark place, many leaves are still alive and green. Occasionally, they try to push another flower. Very hardy plants.
Smokin Harley
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Not sure what I did with mine or you guys doing with yours... My Little Dutch was like a bush and a hearty grower. It compared size to my horseradish plant. leaves after curing had a very pleasant dry cocoa aroma.
I still have two growing next to a Japan-8 which survived the winter indoors and just shot for the fourth time to full size (always stalk-harvested it and it always came back). Japan-8 is taller and has even somewhat bigger leaves than the Dutches. But I do get that cocoa aroma from them, too.
.. I just measured: The biggest Little Dutch plants were less than 2 feet high, largest leaves measure 19x4 inches (but most are smaller).
The size of Bolivian Criollo Black and Prilep 66-9/7 grown parallel is within expectation.
.. I just measured: The biggest Little Dutch plants were less than 2 feet high, largest leaves measure 19x4 inches (but most are smaller).
The size of Bolivian Criollo Black and Prilep 66-9/7 grown parallel is within expectation.
Under ideal conditions, Little Dutch produces a robust plant, with 18 or so usable, long and narrow leaves, even though the plant itself (around 3 to 4 feet) is shorter than average. The stalk of a well-grown Little Dutch may easily exceed 1-1/2" (3.8 cm) in width, and the root system is quite large and spreading.
This year, my Little Dutch has grown to about 18", and is now budding. But it's in a crummy bed.
Bob
This year, my Little Dutch has grown to about 18", and is now budding. But it's in a crummy bed.
Bob
August Already
Arrow points to Little Dutch that disappoints.
In the small bed shown below, the cute plants up front are supposed to be that size. In back of them are 5 Columbian Garcia. Last year's Columbian Garcia required a stepladder to bag.
Bob
Arrow points to Little Dutch that disappoints.
In the small bed shown below, the cute plants up front are supposed to be that size. In back of them are 5 Columbian Garcia. Last year's Columbian Garcia required a stepladder to bag.
Bob
Brown Thumb
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Very nice and healthy looking, you might want to do something with the Bottom of the bud bag.
You're observant. I appreciate your raising the question. That's actually an illusion. The overly wide top of the bag on the Corojo 99 has flopped down like a dog ear....you might want to do something with the Bottom of the bud bag.
At the yellow arrow, you can see the stitching of the side seam running horizontally. The name tag is stitched into the opposite side seam. The whole shebang has drooped down over the yellow string tie at the bottom of the bag, so you can't see it.
I'm usually not so lazy, and first roll the bag to fit properly, then pay out the length of the bag as the bud spike grows.
Bob
Smokin Harley
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Bob, let the Little Dutch sucker up taller, those leaves will turn out just fine, they'll be about 75% of the main leaf size but still very good. Very hardy plant. I'd grow it again.
This is my sixth year growing Little Dutch. Sometimes it wins, sometimes it loses.
Bob
Bob
Time for Class Pictures
And just for fun, I piled these 5 leaves for a 2016 class photo.
Bob
And just for fun, I piled these 5 leaves for a 2016 class photo.
Bob
Alpine
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Is the Baldió Vera a FC??? From the pics, it seems very light green compared to the others.
Pier
Pier
Judging from its appearance, I believe that the Baldió Vera is a white-stem burley. I'll have to cure and finish it to find out if that is true. If I'm not mistaken, most if not all flue-cure varieties were originally derived from Orinoco types.
Bob
EDIT: Big Gem is an exception. While classified as a "flue-cure" variety, it is probably derived from burley.
Bob
EDIT: Big Gem is an exception. While classified as a "flue-cure" variety, it is probably derived from burley.
while I'm on my vacation Corojo 99 grows on it's own. before I left I already make two primings. For the first seco priming I will wait another two weeks. i have topped the plant at 12th leaf. No coronas this year.
btw, your leaves are bigger than mine. I use closer spacing 12-15 inches. Don't like to big leaves for filler.
btw, your leaves are bigger than mine. I use closer spacing 12-15 inches. Don't like to big leaves for filler.
ProfessorPangloss
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Bob, your description of PA Red's growth was bang-on. I went and looked in on mine, and they're hitting a last growth spurt. The ones that I topped already are getting some truly massive leaves.
Brown Thumb
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I noticedy my pa red stops suckering when it starts to mature, alligator per say.
Smokin Harley
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Yes it does...Its ready . It'll start to mottle/yellow as well.
i follow your grow my brother '' silientlly'' i dont post my opionions ... your actually aa badass. at it and dont need my input,
we grow for 2 different reasons.. you 4 cigars.. me 4 cigg's.... so what really good is my input,??? but im looking and learning,
we grow for 2 different reasons.. you 4 cigars.. me 4 cigg's.... so what really good is my input,??? but im looking and learning,
Tutu
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I think we all look in awe and learn. Finished reading all your grow blogs from '12 to '16 and every single one of them is amazing. Disappointed that the Besuki decided this was not a good year. Still a lot of others to keep yourself a busy man haha
cigarchris
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What curing method will you be using for your Izmir this year? I have eight Xanthi Yaka plants and I haven't yet decided how I'll cure them, looking for some advice. I'd like to use them for pipe tobacco when I eventually develop a pressing method, cigarette filler is the backup plan/use. The leaves aren't as thick as my Criollo 98, Vuelta Abajo or PA broadleaf. I'm assuming they wanted more sun than western PA could provide in a summer. I've never tried sun-curing, as I figured there would never be enough consecutive sunny days in Pittsburgh.
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